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George Bush did not cause 9/11, he reacted to it

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  1. Fogbuster

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    Despite what the people in tin-foil hats say, Geo W Bush did NOT cause 9/11. In fact, a convincing argument may be made that Bill Clinton's INACTION and LACK of constructive engagement with Muslim nations (e.g. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egygt, et. al.) during the 1990s may very well have set the stage for 9/11: U.S. embassies bombed by al qaeda, U.S. naval vessels attacked, U.S. and other Western interests bombed many times during Clinton's reign.

    Geo Bush simply responded to all that had happened, most importantly, to 9/11.

    As for Iraq, with all the stonewalling frequent war starter and genocidal despot Saddam Hussein threw up against the entire world by keeping UN inspectors out of Iraq for five years, there was no need for any "Niger yellow cake" or any other excuse to go in an remove the brutal dictator Hussein.

    All these games about Geo Bush lying about this or that are a pathetically transparent smokescreen for one simple fact: some people obviously cannot accept the FACT that Geo Bush twice beat Dem candidates for the presidency. Like spoiled little children, they keep crying.

    Bwa-a-a-a.



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    #15 Jersey

    Please give us your explanation of George Bush's response when told that the United States was under attack. You know, when he sat there listening to My Pet Goat for another 7 minutes.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Yes, yes we all know a good president would have turned into Rambo and
    bee-lined it to Washington to stand on the steps of the capital and thump
    his chest to reassure a frightened nation that we will not be defeated. Wait. I thought he ordered the attacK on ourselves? You guys confuse me.
     
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    George Bush responded to the 9/11 tragedy by attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

    Five (5) years after the 9/11 assault on America, the perpetrator (OSAMA BIN LADEN) of the terrorist act is still free and living in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Jeez, you are re-writing history. The primary reason for attacking Iraq was the existence of WMD which posed immediate and imminent threat to America.

    To justify his phony war, Bush had to lie and manipulate the intelligence reports, like the existence of the Iraq-Niger yellow cake connection.

    We have to put another caveat to your assertion: In the first election, over 500,000 more Americans voted against George Bush.


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    If he had leaped out of his chair, screamed and ran out of the room the kids would all have started crying, the teachers would have sh!t in their pants and the American people would have have gone into a panic.

    WHAT GOOD WOULD IT HAVE DONE IF BUSH HAD RAN OUT OF ROOM?

    IMAGINE THE FUN THE SORE LOSING BUSH HATING DEMOCRATS COULD HAVE HAD THESE LAST FEW YEARS WITH PICTURES OF THE PRESIDENT RUNNING OUT OF A SCHOOL ROOM LIKE A SCARED JACK RABBBIT, CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE NY TIMES AND HOLLYWOOD WOULD HAVE DONE WITH THAT ONE.

    BUSH KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND HE DID IT RIGHT, HE DIDN'T PANIC THE CHILDREN, HE DIDN'T PANIC THE PEOPLE AND HE DIDN'T GO INTO HYSTERICS WHICH THE SORE LOSERS WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE HIM DO.

    HE STAYED COOL, THAT IS WHAT A LEADER IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Sheesh Mikey why haven't you ever discussed this before(sarcasm)? But, ok....

    Lets move this to your favorite discussion. Iraq-Bush's private war. We know. By the way, did you know that more people voted for someone other than Bill Clinton in his first election?
     
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    I just saw President Bush give his press conference at the Rose Garden.

    Anyone who does not understand his crystal clear logic and unwavering commitment to prevent further terrorism is just not listening. The president's method is clear: to back out of Iraq now only gives terrorists the psychological sense of victory. As happened in Vietnam and Southeast Asia (and Korea, too), this is all that is necessary to give away victory. Get the free world back-pedaling and the defeat of free world is inevitable. Anyone who doesn't see that just is not paying attention to history.

    Furthermore, Bush's policy to reduce both green-house gases and U.S. dependence on foreign oil is in his bill to support ethanol development, but, like the war against terrorism, the Dems want to politicize that issue as well: do nothing but then blame Bush. It is just plain disgusting.

    :mad:

    Bush is right.



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    To the thread starter: Of course Bush did not cause 9/11. However, Bush shamelessly used 9/11 to go into Iraq. Millions of innocent Iraqi civilians are dead and thousands of US soldiers are dead, because Bush and his advisors lied and manipulated us into war.
     
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    #80 Jersey

    For a country under 'attack' .... and him being the PRESIDENT....he seemed pretty calm in the fact that he was in no danger to him in that school. Either he is really stupid, or he knew what was going on.

    'Magong' BUSh aka MABUS

    OH and by the way, his REACTION to 9-11 has been a failure, and utter failure.

    where is Bin Laden again?....I keep forgetting.
     
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    If we attack Iran....you are wrong. The PNAC and Clean Break policy will have seen its way to action. The documents prove that long before this admionistration took power, they planned on invading Iraq, so that they could destroy Iran. Defenders of his war policy will be seen in my eyes as traitors to America, and slaves to a neoconservative agenda. Bush is dead wrong, Cheney is dead wrong, Kristol id dead wrong. They have yet to be right about ANYTHING!
     
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    The frequent rally cry for neocons to justify war is to spread freedom, and to protect the 'free world'.

    Are we really free? Are we really free, if our votes and choices are basically based on what the media brainwashes us to think?

    It seems the bulk of sheep who fight for freedom, are simply idiot drones who repeat cute catch phrases like 'blame america', 'flip flopper', 'cut and run', 'spread freedom' without looking into any issues in any complex detail.

    By the way, the 'spread democracy' justification is complete crap if you know any history. In the past few decades, the United States supports dictators and destroys democracies based on its own self-interest.
     
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    Nobody's talking about Iran. We're talking about terrorism and those who sponsor or abet it. Clinton left 9/11 in Bush's lap, and now Bush is doing something about it, but you complain!!!! Sick. Those guys who flew the planes on 9/11 all did their training while Clinton was president. Where the hell was Billy Boy, Sandy Bergler, and his "crack" intelligence team at the White House???? Sheeeeit. If anybody needs stringing up as a "traitor" it's Bill Clinton and his cronies.

    But if you think what you said above is true, that Bush and Cheney want to go into Iran, you need your head examined; you are taking toxic stuff somewhere.



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    #80 Jersey

    Terrorism has been going on since the beginning of time....wrek-anize! Bush is doing excatly JACK-SQUAT about it, if anything he is making terrorists more legit.

    and about getting my head examined...you better check yourslef, and read what THEY wrote ( google PNAC, and a clean break)...i'm not making this stuff up. Its always been about IRAN, get your popcorn my man.
     
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    So you'd rather turn the world over to Saddam types???




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    Yeah, sure. We'll all been just great with guys like Saddam and this nut-case in Iran running loose. Sure thing. You'll feel better after a nice long nappy.

    There you go.





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    The only rally cry I and most people need is: four hijacked planes slamming into sky-scrapers. That's enough. Don't need any "war whoops". Not me, not most others. Neo-con, schmeo-con. That's a ruse.




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    Dude, read up on recent history! We toppled a democratic Iranian government decades ago and helped put Saddam in power in Iraq in the first place! We knew he was a dictator and left him alone. The 'spread democracy' justification is crap.

    And the sad truth is, Saddam was an as*hole, but the fact is he actually kept the ethnic strife in Iraq in check and prevented it from turning into civil war, and also served as a balance to counter Iranian power in the region. He was bad, yes, but he was a better alternative than what we find ourselves in now.

    Now, everything is f*cked since we went in.
     
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    So you think Saddam, even though he is an "as*hole" in your words, is still better than what America has done for Iraq. You'd rather have Saddam Hussein than Geo Bush. Do you need some money for a ticket out of the U.S.? I'm willing to chip in.

    Sure thing. And Auntie Pelosi and the Dem gang are the answer. Right. Have fun with your Michael Moore flicks and moveon.org.


    :woohoo:




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    #80 Jersey

    dude...what are you talking about? are you seriously wrapped up in a world that is republican/democrat and christian/muslim?
     
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    Only two choices here, "dude". Repub or Dem. If you crap on one it only benefits the other.


    But I'm sure you already knew that. Dude.




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