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    Great article and another example of media bias. I would like to quote part of the article (note this is from a gov website no copyright issues).

     
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    All of that is great. What's not so great -- the ever escalating level of violence across the country including Baghdad.

    This guy reminds me of Kevin Bacon's ROTC character in Animal House. Pandemonium erupts in the streets and he's shouting "All is well! All is well!"

    We're supposed to lock arms and sing kumbaya around a campfire over some construction projects when they're getting blown up as fast as they get built?

    Let's be clear: This person does not want the American public to know what happens over there when it comes to anything that might be construed as bad news. If someone blows up a hospital and kills 100 people, he doesn't want it reported. If 4 Marines get ambushed and get killed, he doesn't want it reported. If Sunnis-Shia's gun it out in the streets, killing civilians, he doesn't want it reported.
     
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    Well ther is a lot of violence in Baghdad currently. However I don't know if you can characterize the whole country as more violent. For example today security in the provinces (3 more) that include Mosul and Tikrit, both of which were very much centers of the insurgency, not the Iraqi military is taking over fromt the US troops.
     
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    Not many anticipated Iraqi forces taking charge of security in provinces in the "Sunni tirangl" however, that show some progress.
     
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    Sure there's progress in some areas. But the way I see it is, violence pops up in an area, it gets quelled and then another hot spot opens up. So what happens is it's hard to get control of the entire country all at once.

    The fact Baghdad is such a problem is a real concern. In theory, it should be the most secure because it has the largest US troop prescence in the country and it's the seat of power for the new govt. Unfortunately, it's not happening right now.
     
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    Hey...some sources on your side also hold that Detroit is a more dangerous place than Baghdad.

    So the rose glasses are obviously pretty thick.

    Love that quote...I wonder, was that Cheneys firm that performed so poorly, or was it Bechtel? And why was there so much corruption in the first 3 years because of the Bush decision to award no-bid contracts.

    This engineers gotta be pissed that the contractors made five times as much as him for less work, as desk jobs, with contractors who hired some staff through the Heritage Foundation website.
     
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    It's no surprise that if you throw enough money at a problem you can make some progress. That's been the Republican approach since Reagan. Spend. Spend. Spend. Of course, the question will be, Is that progress sustainable at an affordable price.

    At any rate, in all fairness to the General, he works for the CiC, who is trying to justify an increasingly unpopular war, so the General is trying hard to put a good spin on things. Further, I never read the WP article, so maybe it was unfair. We'll have to see if the WP responds.

    Here are some other things the General said:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0826/dailyUpdate.html

    "Security increases costs by 10-25 percent, so we're not getting our value for money. Security was factored in at a rate of 9 percent – we didn't know it would be this much," [Brigadier-General Bill McCoy] said on a tour of projects at Taji military base north of Baghdad.

    http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=705&Itemid=30

    "We've had to downsize in some areas. It took $3 billion out of water and $500 million out of electricity," he said.

    And as I told you earlier, nationwide, we have 12 to 14 hours of power a day in virtually every other province but Baghdad. And in Baghdad's province, about three months ago it was two to four hours; and here in the last month, it's been four to eight hours, and he has been a part of that. We want to get better.

    Wonder how many sick and old people are dying because of the electrical problems? Wonder if all the hospitals have adequate power reserves? Any idea?
     

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