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  1. Holy Diver

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    Israel is slipping, stuff like this used to be a piece of cake for them.
     
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    Agreed. Poor choice of tactics by the Israelis. Disabling the screws and towing them to Ashdod would have been a lot smarter, and even if they were going to do it this way, they should have broadcast it live. Raw footage of the first moments here.

    YouTube - Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers
    YouTube - Demonstrators Use Violence Against Israeli Navy Soldiers Attempting to Board Ship
     
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    I'm not saying that gunning people down was right or not, but it's kind of stupid to attack armed commandos, throwing one overboard, and not expect to be shot at. The video certainly helps Israel in the sense that the world can see that the activists weren't singing kumbaya, while tossing rose pedals at the Israeli's feet. Whether or not they needed to gun people down though, I don't know.
     
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    This should be a lesson to Israel "don't listen to the crazy american liberals, next time leave the stupid paint guns home and bring some AK47's, Bazooka's and Flame Throwers"

    :bricks:
     
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    Wow.

    How could anyone disagree with Israel and its supporters? I mean, so far, they've behaved perfectly acceptable in all of their actions to date while their enemies have done nothing but threaten and murder Israelis and destroy their country....I mean...what else is there to say? Palestinians are savages and Israelis are good...right?
     
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    Not in my book, they should both be taken to the woodshed, my posts were just disbeliefs that realizing Israel's track record that they would actually board that ship with "paint guns"

    But again I have to say "Israel is the kid in the playground surrounded by his enemy's" FIGHT OR DIE
     
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    Sadly America has so much invested, something like 2.5 billion dollars a year to provide a coherent position.. this has gone on too long, and there have been too many people killed...

    This will turn into another mess... and there are no answers.
     
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    I hear an Israeli soldier was hurt. Well...that ought to be enough to justify a military operation into Gaza to wipe out some towns and kill a few dozen "terrorists" (and their kids and wives). Hey, they asked for it, right?

    ...round 63....
     
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    The only solution:

    Give the Jewish people Texas.
     
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    What did the Jews ever do to you?
     
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    Me? nothing ... I was born in Lakewood, NJ ... I loves me some jews.

    Is moving to Texas that bad?

    I'm actually serious, since we seem to be the only country that has their back. Since it was the Germans who tried to eliminate them, shouldn't it really be us or Germany who flips the land for them. I understand that they claim its their holy land and all, but so do other faiths.

    This entire thing is getting dumb.

    Its almost like they WANT armageddon.....wait a second....
     
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    When i saw this on the news the first thing i thought was WoW did they F**K UP This Time..........They've got to stop the Heavy Handedness.
     
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    The odd thing is that, based on this and other posts, I suspect you take the inverse position, which isn't any more reasonable.
     
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    So ... let's see ... liberals are angry because Israel capped a few liberals ... the old sticks and stones thing.

    If these people were home watching a reality show they would still be alive.
     
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    As a matter of fact, I don't take the inverse position. I realize that Hamas is a bad gang of thugs just like the Israeli military government. Both societies have a lot to answer for in terms of violence, arrogance and religious idiocy.

    Where there are few who take the position that Israel is always bad and that the Palestinians are always justified, there seems to be many, many more in the media, government and the population who automatically defer to Israeli "self defense" excuses for their autrocities. Israel and their American backers always come out on top in terms of aid, political clout and popular support based on mystical prophesies and biblical bullsh!t. No one likes a loser and people tend to back a big winner like Israel.

    Yay!, Israel! Kick some ass!
     
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    Not for nothing though, but the jews have been the victim of multiple extermination attempts, so you can kind see where they'd have somewhat of a zero tolerance type attitude. In '48, the whole of the ME tried to wipe them off the map, an a few years earlier, a dude in Germany mutilated millions of them. I'm not a go israel type of guy, and I personally don't think either side will be happy until the other is anihilated, but I can't completely blame the Israeli's for having a type of shoot first, ask questions later attitude. I think it's counter productive in most cases, but my guess is they feel diplomacy is a loser prop.
     
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    nobody is right if everybody is wrong..
     

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