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    Crable, Warren on PUP - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

    Gasper says all 5 of the PUPs are Active/PUP, meaning they can return to practice at any time.

    (UPDATED): Gasper now reports that Tate and Porter went on the Active/Non-Football Injury list, meaning they are treated like the Active/PUP and still count against the 80-man roster. Therefore, they are not out six weeks at this point. The initial report had them on Reserve/NFI.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    im not worried about wareen hes a proven warrior; crable on the other hand the news kinda sucks.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    Pats1, you think that they failed BB's test?
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    Quite possibly in Crable, Ohnrberger, and Richard's case. Warren and LeVoir were out for OTAs so that's probably a lingering issue there.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF


    That was my thinking after reading this... ;)
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    If Crable failed the test after all of this, well, that's just not a good sign.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF


    So they would need an open roster spot to sign McKenzie even if he is immediately put on IR?
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    Goddamn it Crable. What's wrong with Ohrenberger?
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    I'm being ever the hopeless optimist thinking BB is stashing depth for use later in the season. Even though I know it's not true.

    I don't see how Crable fails the fitness test this year unless he's either legitimately hurt or a lost cause. :(
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF


    Nope it isnt, after all the positive feedback you heard about him...
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    Stryker Sulak, baby!

    (In all likelihood, it will most likely go to one of those transitional, fill-the-gap type guys. Think Titus Adams/Lav Bauta. They filled in for PUP guys or unsigned rookies (Mayo) and then, in Bauta's case, were cut.)
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    Gee-wiz, what the heck's wrong with Crable? he better get his OLB-arse back out there soon. at least the worries of meriweather and mayo are for the moment allayed.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    The Active/PUP guys count against the 80-man limit. The Reserve/NFI (or Reserve/PUP, for that matter) do not.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to PUP, Tate and Porter to NF

    No kidding. Hopefully it's nothing of note, but this is more "bad" than "good."
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    He must have updated it or something, or I am reading it wrong, because it seems clear to me that it is active NFI:

    Crable, Warren on PUP - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    Crable... BB went out of his way - not THAT long ago - to mention the fact that he and a few others were showing "leadership" by being in Foxborough, training...
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    I'm late for the freakout. Where's the acid?
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    Looks like Crable may not be so stable

    McGinest is getting closer to signing every day crap news like this happens

    Or maybe time to kiss Al Davis ass for Burgess
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    We don't know why Crable is on the PUP list. We can probably put off committing seppuku until we get the actual story.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    Yes, Gasper checked with his source and clarified it. I'm going to fix the title and first post.
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    GUYS, i do not even think the conditioning run was done yet. In fact, you have to be active to even run it - so lets not panic yet
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    Shun White is the surprising guy who made it to camp. His fellow Annapolis alumni were put on the Inactive/Military list but he seems to have survived to make it to camp. It's not really surprising for anyone who caught any Navy games this year, the kid can really play and is a Harvin-like RB/WR hybrid.

    He's this year's darkhorse that I'm rooting for.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to A/N

    In a tight race like this, these guys better all return to practice asap...especially Crable...
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to R/N

    You don't understand the gravity of the situation. It's not just that Crable's career is probably over as he obviously is made of galss. The long snapper is holding out! :eek: We're doomed.
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    The rookies most likely have had their conditioning runs. Veterans haven't reported yet. The first day of training camp is Thursday so that means veterans report on Wednesday. So the veterans on the PUP are on for real reasons.
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    Injured but not bad enough to put them out of camp entirely? Possible situation where they got hurt working out on their own maybe?
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    You make it seem like BB used the military list to stash the other 2....It is more likely the other 2 had obligations to the Navy and apparently White does not or his obligations are close enough to Foxboro to keep him in camp.


    Think Kyle Eckel the first time we had him. He had obligations to the navy but arranged to carry out his obligations in RI. When we cut him and Miami nabbed him he had to stay in RI to carry out his obligations and Miami put him on the reserve military list.
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    Re: Gasper: Warren, Crable, Ohrnberger, LeVoir, Richard to A/PUP, Tate, Porter to A/N

    welker and hobbs were put on PUP this time last year also, and they turned out fine for the year. so hopefully the same goes w/ crable

    or
    its
    stryker sulak time.
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    Re: conditioning run has not even occurred yet

    No, this probably has more to do with the services themselves. While the Army (which has an officer deficiency) made it clear with the Caleb Campbell case that military obligation would be necessary no matter what, the Navy (and Air Force and Marine Corps) is suffering from a glut of officers and have commissioned too many new Ensigns/Lieutenants recently and are likely standing by the old rule where NFL players who made a team out of camp were allowed to defer their entire obligation to reserve and act as recruitment officers for their branch in their team's area.

    Eckel was reserve/militaried and therefore had to serve his time. He was discharged early when NFL teams came back knocking (though there were rumblings bad conduct played a role in it as well). If White doesn't make the team out of camp, he will likely have to serve as well. But Belichick clearly thinks he at least has a shot at making the 53-man roster which the other two did not. Belichick also has strong ties to the Navy, so it's likely he has some pull in this department.
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