Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by mikey, Apr 25, 2006.
Yup that war all about oil really sucks, huh? Where is my 10 cent gas?
So why did we attack the middle east???
They only adjust the gas prices once a month over here....I just can't wait for the 1st of May.
Regular Unleaded is about 1,30 euro a liter off post
As if you needed another reason to stay off the roads!
Drill in Alaska and build some new refineries.
Oil CEO's give it to you in the ass while environmentalists rape your wallet, damn them both!
Why won't they build more refineries? Also, how is drilling in Alaska going to help?
I believe the oil companies don't want to spend the money to build them and when they do you have some environmental group line the pockets of some politician to block it.
Alaska oil would not be part of Opec, maybe it wouldn't help immediately, but at least it would not be middle east oil.
Oh...the environmentalists are in the pols pockets? Who, specifically?
And, how long do you think our Alaskan oil reserves will last us, assuming we don't ship it to Asia?
I understand global demand for gas , my question is, when the iraq war is finished and they increase oil production, how much of an effect will it lower prices at the pumps.....
no, no...the Iraq war has nothing to do with oil production.
That's $6.12 for a gallon
1,30 euro is 1.62 dollars
3.78 liters is a gallon
And that's 87 octane some places its 86.8
I don't know and neither do you, so we should just say **** it lets get some more oil from opec?
Just an honest question, What difference in prices at the pump do you forcast when the war is over and stability returns to the region...0ne dollar two dollar, or the price will stay the same at the current 3 per gal.
The uncertainty has an impact but the huge increase in worldwide demand is the bigger issue.
The best estimates are around 9 months at current consumption rates. However, it has been thoroughly acknowledged that most of north slope crude would go to Asia. Here, clue in. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002245699_export17m.html
And whats that about Markey? Im curious.
The article you provided shows Markey opposing ANWR drilling. That is what you provide me as proof that environmentalists are in the pols pockets?
WTF? You are aware that Markey opposed that anwr drilling rider because they put it on a defense appropriations bill. Is that the bill they are talking about in your article? Its unclear. In essence, if you don't support drilling then we are going to force you to sign onto it using a defense bill, which was a sleazy GOP tool to get the needed votes to open anwr to drilling even though its production potential is limited.
another example of how un-conservative the "conservatives" are. How about promoting "conservation"? Its not part of Bushs vocabulary.
Was listening to an interview on NPR the other day about alternative energies, some entrepeneur has developed a way to make gas out of coal that would cost $3.00 per million BTU as opposed to gas which is now $7.00 per BTU ( not sure about the BTU stuff) but anyways long way from ongoing production but shows promise,
Here is a synopsis of the article, seems like a better alternative than doing the North Slope thing..
So you think it is Ok for a Democrat to pimp his vote out for donations, Ok I see now you are such a party lackey , as soon as a Republican does it you stand 20 freaking threads about the same thing.
I guess it is my liberal side coming out in me that I care more about people than a god damned tree.
It's pimping out for donations because he didn't vote for this amendment to an unrelated bill?
I can't even have a dialogue with this bozo. Its incredible how Fox news has left a good chunk of america dumbed out of politics.
care to tell me WTF you are talking about? The fox article says nothing about environmentalists being in the pocket of pols. Or, is that who you are blaming now for high gas prices?
I see that its the blame du jour from the right. Exxon CEO makes the highest profits in the history of america and its the green party, the ones who have been trying to push alternative renewable energy for 30 years who are to blame.
Have another sip of your Hannity love sauce.
No you are just proven to be a hypocrite, no suprise there though.
You just have to rack your brain trying to have discussion with blowhards who only spout what the party tells them, like AAB & Pujo.
Markey is just a puppet for stuttering Kennedy, Jr.
I like having debates with conservatives, sometimes I even learn something or change the way I think. But it feels hackneyed with PFIEL, like we just have to stick to platitudes and talking points, or else he brings us right back to another cliche like "pimping for donatons". It's not that I think this guy wouldn't pimp for donations (they all do), it's that nothing posted here makes that connection.
""Help me continue to fight to expose to the American people the dangers of this extreme and ineffective action by making a contribution today," Markey wrote in the e-mail Wednesday, providing a link readers could click to donate to his House campaign fund."
What a whore and his sluts like you buy it hook line & sinker.
Down another gallon Dean gism.
I'm a card-carrying Libertarian (laminated the card myself), and my party tells me to drill wherever you can find oil, as long as the land doesn't belong to anyone else. I don't agree with them.
But let's talk with logic for once - can you explain your pimping for donations comment? What makes you say that? Is it a fact that anyone who opposes drilling is being paid off by special interest groups?
Have you EVER seen a political communication that doesn't ask for donations??
AAB posts nothing but DNC talking points that coincide what he get with the daily emails from them. Same goes with moveon, dailykos, and DU. Good luck freeing your own mind, Neo you will never be.
Oh, yes, because Markey stands against ANWR? I happen to agree with him on that. Why? Because as I've stated, the production is limited, best left for reserves for our future security, and not guranteed to even see the american market. In addition, it was a political trick by the GOP to attach it as a rider on a defense appropriations bill. So?
Can you at least try to make a point about how environmentalists are in the pocket of pols? Here I was thinking that Big Oil is in the pocket of pols. The gasman runs the country after all.
Neo? As in The Matrix?
But seriously - where do you think Democrat (and Republican) talking points come from? The media, the public, and party strategists all base them on current happenings. Yes, it's a Democrat talking point that Bush is an utter failure as President - but that doesn't make it less true, and unless I can just quote the talking point without backing up what I'm saying, it doesn't show a lack of independent thought from me. It's also a Democrat talking point that we need to raise taxes to pay for basic services, I call BS on this one.
*PS - I've NEVER been on the Dems mailing list. I WAS on MoveOn's during the election, but that's only because I agreed with them on one issue - Bush is bad for America.
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