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Garner: Iraq on Verge of Genocidal War

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    Iraq on verge of genocidal war, warns ex-US official

    Patrick Wintour
    Monday June 18, 2007
    The Guardian

    The man who led the initial American effort to reconstruct Iraq after the war believes the country is on the brink of a genocidal civil war and its government will fall apart unless the US changes course and allows a three-way federal structure. He has also urged talks with Iran and other regional players.

    Jay Garner, the former US general appointed two months before the invasion to head reconstruction in Iraq, admitted that before the 2003 war coordination between the various US departments and military had been disjointed.

    He also disclosed that the US state department official in charge of postwar planning, Thomas Warrick, was prevented from joining his team by Donald Rumsfeld, who was defence secretary. He said he was shocked by the Pentagon's decision to reduce troop levels and disband the Iraqi army.

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    Mr Garner also admitted he did not see several of the plans prepared by the Bush administration and does not know why. He also revealed that he rang Mr Rumsfeld to tell him to stop reducing the US troop deployment and warned him that the consequent power vacuums were filling up with " fundamentalists". He also admits he was stunned by the decision in mid-May 2003 to disband the Iraqi army, saying at one stroke, it created a 200,000- strong armed opposition.
     
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    More encouraging news on the surge and the overiding WOT...
     
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    That should make it easier to pilfer their oil. This $3 a gallon crap is for the French.;)
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Let's let them get it on and see what's left. Seriously that region is so unsalvagable I don't know why anyone tries.
     
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    Dick Cheneys waaay ahead of you.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    :)

    I was kidding to a certain extent but I don't think there is a good solution. Well intentioned or not, we tried - time to move out and move on.
     
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    It's over $7 a gallon in Italy. :eek:
     
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    #24 Jersey

    That's a little misleading as most countries over there have enourmous gas taxes. It's just unrealistic here because our country is so much bigger.
     
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    for the record, in case anyone is not familiar.... Jay Garner was the first guy put in charge over there ... things were going "relatively" well, before Bush/Cheney/Rummie bumped him out within a couple months and installed corporate friendly Paul Bremmer... billions of wasted dollars and scores of stupid decisions later, and the rest is history...
     
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    Misleading in what sense? When I fill up over there it's 1.45 Euro per liter. A gallon is 3.7 liters, and a Euro is $1.32 ish. I know the majority of it is taxes, but that's what people pay regardless. Socialist countries have to do that to pay for their entitlement structure.
     
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    Fair enough, yes, quite well, but they were 7 games into a 162 game season. The biggest, and most idiotic thing they ever did, was disband the army, and piss of the sunni B'aathists. Which I think we all agree on.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    I just mean that they're not paying that for a gallon of gas, they're paying it for a gallon of gas and whatever the taxes are used for.
     
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    Oh, yes. Absolutely. Taxes on fuel there, are much higher than they are here.
     

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