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Gaffney Is Good Enough to Be Our Number 2 Next Season

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  1. mavfan2390

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    I mean how huge has this guy been the past few weeks? He is CLUTCH. And then today he already has two amazing grabs! I don't think Stallworth will be back, but I do think Gaffney accepts a 4 year deal at about 3 million per year not including signing bonus.
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    Stallworth is gone due to the cap, it's a given at this point. I like the guy but there are other priorities to use the cap on. Between Gaffney or Washington they'll have someone who can play the outside and let Wes stay in the slot.
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    yes he is.

    Good thing they chose him over Reche. I thought it was a no brainer the whole time.
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    Moss, Welker, Gaffney, and a hopefully healthy/improving Chad Jackson is good enough for me. Throw in a scrub #5 and we're all set.
    Of course if there's another Welker-type contract, or a one year Stallworth/Moss type available; I'm all for signing a big name player for cheap.

    Stallworth is an interesting one though. Even though he's said nothing but good stuff you've got to think he isn't getting enough throws to be willing to take a discount next year. He could very easily be #1 on a sub-part team, and a #2 on most good teams.
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    Gaffney has been excellent this season. I think he can certainly take Stallworth's slot if he's gone. Plus, you would hope Jackson could contribute in a big way come next season.
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    He's our #2 this year (well, Welker is, but you know what I mean). I'll take Moss, Welker, Gaffney, Jackson, and Washington (who should be re-upped if only because he looks like Steve Tasker-lite on special teams). Stallworth is good, but he's superfluous, and unless they can get Chad Johnson or something in a trade, those 5 are a good group.
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    Amen to that.
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    i'd be dissapointed if we lost Stallworth..regardless how much $ because without him , we arent as good. You guys need to see that all 4 WRs help each other out. With 4 very good WRs..that doesnt allow teams to shut our passing game down because Gaffney/Stallworth/Welker just outmatch any nickel/LBs/Safeties. limits who gets double covered and how often aswell as if 1 person has a rough game, we can rely on others.

    take 1 of the WRs out..any of them..and were not as dominant .

    Belichick knew exactly what we get with Moss/Stallworth/Welker and espeically Gaffney after being here last year

    the wildcard is and was Jackson because we havent seen enough of him. BB got players he knew can contribute and fit their roles in his brain and said MAGIC
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    Yes, he had a much better camp than Reche. But don't fool yourself into thinking Beioli sat there in late August and were thinking about keeping Reche over Gaffney because of what happened in the playoffs.

    And Gaffney could be the #2 next season, but the Pats could and will do better, as we've seen this season.
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    I'd like to see them restructure Stall. won't happen, but they will keep one or the other Gaffney, or Stall. Personally, I think Gaffney will be more economical. I'm totally good with it if it's Moss, Gaff, WW, and Washington (who will be back).
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    the only way Stallworth is gone is if we feel Jackson can do as good of a job if not better. so basically u still have 4 very good WRs. Gaffney's success was known..i dont see Gaffney's play affecting the off season for Stallworth. Thats Jacksons job..show us something in practice, games, wherever
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    I believe what happened in the playoffs was part of the decision.

    Reche showed that when his team needs him the most, he cannot be trusted.

    That doesn't work with this team.
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    Don't forget about Chad Jackson. He could really push Gaffney for that spot next year. His downfall would be his experience.
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    Enough, I'm not going to get into this again. If you truly think that way, I feel bad for you.
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    Finally, something we agree about. It's amazing how many people evaluate what a 4th WR does as if the other 3 weren't out their drawing coverage from him...

    And Jackson can't even make gameday active down the stretch, so penciling him in even as the 4th WR in 2008 is a stretch.
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    why should Jackson make the active roster though? Im sure he would if Brown wasnt the vet he is and we wanted him to be here for the last RS home game. With Watson and Brady out, i would've expected him but i understand the respect for Troy

    but why should he other wise? The top 4 arent making mistakes..hes taking a backseat for now. I would pencil him in if someone leaves..or even with a full training camp to compete. Washington is 1 of our top ST players so hes not gonna be inactive. and you can only use so many.
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    i feel bad for you, if you honestly believe that Reche choking in the biggest game of his life had nothing at all to do with him getting cut.

    You can refuse to believe it if you want, but it played a part.
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    you are right. BB wouldnt have kept him around longer if that was the reason. Caldwell was given an equal chance in camp to compete. He wasnt as good as our top 4 guys and Washington brought more ST value. If Caldwell was a good ST player..he probably would've stuck
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    Don't you mean "you are wrong?"
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    yeah im not saying it was the only reason he was cut.. im just saying that it definitely had something to do with it...

    Imagine if it was even between Gaffney and Caldwell for the final receiver slot..... most people would pick Gaffney over Caldwell b/c Gaffney is more clutch and Caldwell tends to choke.
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    My thoughts on the ever-popular WR subject:

    1. Gaffney is absolutely a top-3 receiver for this team.

    2. When the second-best receiver on the team is a slot guy, the #2 vs. #3 distinction is academic.

    3. Jackson can probably run around and not get balls thrown to him, thus opening things up for the others, just like Stallworth can.

    4. Recent reporting strongly suggests that Washington will stick around in one of the ST-focused roster spots that have more commonly gone to DBs.

    5. Brady today made the same kind of risky throws to Gaffney he's been making to Moss. Evidently he's really gotten into threading the ball at tall guys in tight coverage.

    6. I think Troy has a good chance of making the team next year, although fumbling another punt didn't help. If Welker is hurt, who would you rather have than Troy running his routes?
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    Why wouldn't that have been a part of the decision? I would guess how they each looked in TC was also a part of it.
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    because he can't deal with me being right about something (again).
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    Because I've paid attention enough (*cough*) over the past few years to realize that's not how Belichick operates.

    As I said before, you do a great job of making a broad generalization based on a minuscule sample size.

    Actually I was right. I said that the deciding factor would be how they performed in camp, not what happened in the playoffs.

    Listen to us. We're 15-0. I'm done.
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    no. you aren't right.

    First you said Caldwell wouldn't be cut. WRONG

    then you said that Caldwell's choke job in the playoffs had nothing to do with him getting cut when everyone who's being realistic knows that it played a part. We'll never know how big of a part, but it played a part.

    Don't kid yourself. Put the ego aside and admit you are wrong.
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    Brady made at least one tight throw to Stallworth today down the middle of the field in the first half. Also Gaffney is usually match up with the 4th CB or a LB since he has been basically been playing the second slot position (ala Watson) and the only big play he's made lined up on the outside is the TD against Baltimore(everyone forgets Stallworth was the leading receiver in that game). And from what I can tell watching the games Stallworth is open a lot but Brady decides to go elsewhere including all the bombs to Brady this and last week.
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    Problem is moss 31 and next year 32.If he is out for a game or 2 how many feel goof with gaffney being the #1WR
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    You mean like last year? IMO

    Jackson will continue to develop, he can only get better.
    We have the BEST slot receiver in the game of football.

    I'm positive we'll bring in a rookie or free agent to shake things up too.
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    I think Moss should be a good for a few more years and championship rings. I'm thinking at least 3 more for a total of 6. Not too greedy am I? :D

    I like Stallworth but his salary does worry me. If he renegotiates to stay he'll be back. Otherwise... well you guys have seen how this organization operates.
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    This year the colts played their no1 CB on wes .Wes was locked down as he is not fast enough to get away from marlin jackson.As soon marlin had a foot injury he opened up. they were able to double cover the outside which cause us fits.......once wes start opening up they had to roll a safety effectively openning moss and stallworth- both plays the 2nd player coving stallworth and moss rolled towards wes and we won.

    consider this they can put gaffney in single coverage roll the coverage to wes / box and shut the offense down when TE are thin like now.
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