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  1. The Brandon Five

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    Yes, San Franciscans, you will be voting on circumcision : City Insider

    Unfortunately for supporters, they tipped their hand:

    The PJ Tatler » Proof that S.F.’s circumcision ban Is anti-Semitic

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    Stupid law, parents should be able to make their own choice for their children.
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    I don't have a problem with this.
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    Ha...

    This will certainly be an interesting ballot. thanks "Inactivists"...I'd really appreciate you doing something constructive with your petitions....

    Tends to be a pretty active population of 700k here in the glorioius city by the bay. A few years ago, activists got calling the Sewage Treatment plant on Ocean beach the "George W. Bush Sewage treatment plant"

    It didn't pass..

    But the ballot explanation was classic. Voting FOR it you were stating that no other landmark best described out president better tha one that a bunch oif crap flows through. Voting AGAINST it asked why should we give something that actually does good the name of our worst president.

    the voters out here are certainly informed, this will not pass.
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    :eek:

    :wha:
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    If SF voters want to ban circumcision by referendum, who's to say they shouldn't?

    Unless there's a medical basis for it, which there doesn't appear to be, I see this as a non-issue.
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    Because it interferes with freedom of religion. Maybe Judaism isn't your bag, but what about Islam? Still down with it?

    Also, the backers have been outed as anti-Semites (if that matters to you).
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    So we won't see you on any abortion threads then.
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    I don't see circumcision and abortion as being analogous, so I don't see the point you're trying to make here.
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    It makes no difference to me at all which religions practice the ritual.
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    Didn't I see this movie last week?
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    This is the dumbest ballot question of alltime. Really? Don't mess with a baby's junk.
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    So I assume female circumcision is OK too?

    Male circumcision is not spiritually necessary for being a good Jew and more than sacrificing a goat is. Times change. Even the most archaic religions adapt to new information. A boy's wee-wee is no longer getting sand in the foreskin that could cause a painful infection. Maybe the group that certifies Mohels wants to keep it going but few other groups do.

    "The British Medical Association (2006) states that "it is now widely accepted, including by the BMA, that this surgical procedure has medical and psychological risks."[93] Milos and Macris (1992) argue that circumcision encodes the perinatal brain with violence and negatively affects infant-maternal bonding and trust"
    Circumcision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    One major problem, especially for SF is this: Circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection in populations that are at high risk. GLAD will not be in favor if this law.
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    All the rest of this has been argued to death.....

    Just wanted to ask you when The Catholic Church stopped traumatizing infants by pouring cold water over their heads and calling it baptism and started ordaining women as priests.

    And that part about making Jehovah Witness's give their severely anemic members blood transfusions and Christian Scientists being forced to administer routine innoculations in infancy against deadly diseases - that all took place when?

    How well are they adapting?
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    Not well. All religions need to grow up and stop acting as if they were in the Stone-to-Middle Ages. Better yet, they need to stop operating entirely and get out of the way of society progressing to where we need to be in order to survive and maybe even improve someday. I don't mean to bash one religion more than any other. All of them are deserving of complete removal from society.

    Howzdat?
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    Datz much betterz!! Thanx u.
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    Completely douche-rific.
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    That is a cultural practice, not religious. It is demonstrably more harmful than removing foreskin.
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    I'm very proud to be circumcized. Babies having VIOLENCE incoded in their brains....prolly the same idiots that believe every game with children under 9 should end in a tie!:rolleyes:

    Learn to lose at the youngest age possible and don't cry like a baby!
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    This is almost enough to make me go over to the other side.

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