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    OK, so in a transcript of Pioli talking at the Combine from the KC Star, Scott said this:

    Alrighty, did he pick #23 randomly out of the sky, or is this a hint/slip-up?

    I didn't see anyone else mention this, so pardon me if it was covered in some "Everyone Loves Matty" thread.

    Full Article: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1047043.html
     
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    Good find!

    Reading the article, I get the impression a reporter prefaced his question with a reference to New England's past draft day trades...arguably that brings NE into the discussion leading to the #23 remark. Though it does make one rub his hands with greed pondering a swap of first round picks and the potential of taking a top LT/WR/LB in this draft.
     
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    Fixed your post for you. :D
     
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    Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.

    lol, Pioli is way too smart to both a) just randomly pick that number, and 2) make a slip-up of giving away information. He's doing it for kicks.
     
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    Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.

    How about this from Pioli:
    Official Patriots Football Weekly Blog Blog Archive Pioli: Cassel “hasn’t signed” franchise tender

    Lots of interesting comments from SP today.
     
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    OK so now that that is settled who should we take at #3 ....my vote goes to Curry.
     
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    LBs can be gotten throughout the draft. Premium LOTs and Richard Seymours require top 10 picks. The Pats are seldom there. When they are, you take the Big Uglies. As Bill says "...God made only so many fast, quick, big men...". :eek:;)
     
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    The questions is, do the Patriots really want #3. So far I'd be happy with their 2nd rounder and some other comp, like 2nd next year.
     
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    Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.

    I'd be happy with that too, but #3 got more interesting with the Jason Smith/Monroe battles added to Crabtree and Curry.
     
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    Crabtree/Welk and Moss?

    oh my ******* GOD.

    but yeah I'd have to go with Curry...him and Mayo?

    oh my ******* GOD.
     
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    If we actually take a player at #3, please, please, please let it be a defensive player. If we got a Mayo 2.0, that would be DEF!
     
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    OK. I felt that a swap of picks and their second gets the deal done with K.C. and Scott keeps a first rounder. Now we shop that pick to Carolina for Peppers and they get Stafford to groom under the Jakester. Carolina does not have a first rounder either. Everyone thinks that the Lions will go Stafford.....Why would they do that when they had a better team and drafted Harrington and he looks like he came back from a very rough tour in Afghanistan to date? He has never been the same. An 0-16 team is not going to fix itself overnight with a QB. They need too many things. Think how Long helped the Dolphins. The Lions actually do have the makings of a decent O-Line. Monroe would solidify it. They can let Culpepper have another year. The Rams have a QB that if they had some new weapons and some O-Line help they could flourish better. They have a great RB. So I say they could go Crabtree for the sexy pick or OT Jason Smith from Baylor if Pace retires or they cut him. Stafford would be a bad investment for them there. So I can see Stafford falling to third.
    We get Peppers and the #34 pick. Pioli gets Cassel (is this already a done deal?) and keeps a first rounder at.....#23!!! and the Panthers get Stafford.
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    one of the top LT......SP is too smart to just slip....and for sure give up anything......
     
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    If I am understanding this correct, this scenario would only make sense if you figure the Panthers value Stafford more than Cassel. Otherwise, it would make more sense for the Pats and Panthers to do a straight trade of Cassel and Peppers.

    Panthers get the proven QB in Cassel instead of tossing a dart on Stafford. Pats get Peppers and keep their own 1st.
     
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    I think Pioli is playing his cards and sending a message to the pats. That message being he will not give us the three for Cassel, but he will give the three for cassel and the twenty-three (I also believe the chiefs would throw in the thirty-four in that trade).
     
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    Considering Scott and Bill are close friends, I doubt he's "sending the Pats a message". :rolleyes:
     
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    Trading the #3 pick for Peppers doesn't make sense to me. A 30 year old DE who wants to convert to 3-4 OLB, with his salary issues? I'm sorry, I'm all for Peppers if we can make it work, but not for that deal.

    #3, #34, #47 and #58 would be a sick first day. Even better if we can trade back with Jax for #8 and #40 and end up with #8, #34, #40, #47 and #58. My dream:

    8: BJ Raji DT
    34: Sean Smith CB/S, or possibly Alphonso Smith/DJ Moore CB or Louis Delmas/William Moore S
    40: Eben Britton OT or Alex Mack OG/C
    47: Best available LB prospect among Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim, Larry English or Clay Matthews
     
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    and where do premium LOT's get you?

    2006 - ferguson at #5 or marcus mcneill at #50?
    2005 - brown at #13 or roos at #41?
    2004 - gallery at #2 or starks at #75 or jason peters at (undrafted)?

    sure there are guys who are perennial probowlers but when has tying up huge resources at OT ever equated to an incremental improvement of a team?

    in my opinion, ''good enough" works much better at OT than at many other positions
     
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    Its about playing your cards and negotiating, not malicious or unfriendly, just business. :eek:
     
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    pioli and BB know each other and create a more mutually beneficial situation

    which is another reason why you leave the division for your promotion
     
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