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    Freeney might have suffered Lisfranc injury

    The Indianapolis Colts already expect Dwight Freeney not to play for several weeks because of a left foot injury, but now there's reason to believe the Pro Bowl defensive end's season might be over.

    Though more tests have to be completed for the team to make a final determination, a source said Tuesday that Freeney might have suffered a Lisfranc injury in Sunday's loss to the San Diego Chargers.





    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3108696&univLogin02=stateChanged
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    Isn't this the same injury Michael Strahan had last year?

    I remember he did everything he could to get back on the field after sitting out a month(from early Nov to early Dec), and then somehow made it back in late Dec against the Saints, only to be put on IR in wk17.
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    Ouch. Bad news for him; good news for us. Now maybe he won't be able to turnstile his way through Matt Light in the playoffs.
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    lisfranc??
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    He wouldn't be the same factor in Foxboro. Would nice to beat them full strength just to shut everybody up.
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    lisfranc is a foot injury named after one of Napoleons generals (marshals ?).

    I think the general suffered it when his foot caught in the stirrup in a battle.

    I believe it used to be a career ender - because it is some special bone in foot that can't be healed easily. But modern medicine heals all I guess.

    we used to have a couple of orthopedic surgeon/ medical students or something on the website who explained it all about 3 years ago. (was that dealing with ty law's injury or someboy else. ummm? I forget.) If they are still around they could explain better than I.
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    The Lisfranc fracture is an injury to the small bones that make the bump on the top of the middle of your foot. The metatarsals, which extend to begin the toes, are joined with these lisfranc structure. It is a major structural injury to the foot. Think of it as being the difference between having a broken finger, and having the plam of your hand fractured all the way through.

    If they elect Not to have surgery on Freeney to repair it, it will take at least six weeks in a cast with absolutely no weight put on his foot. If they do have an operation done, the procedure required that screws and wire be inserted into the foot and again, no weight can be put on the foot. The scres then need to be removed in another procedure once the foot is healed.

    Bottomline...if it is lisfranc, I wouldn't expect him back in the regular season, and maybe not the playoffs.
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    With Lisfranc injuries you have two possible situations. One where it's just a sprain and two where it's a fracture or disloaction.

    For a sprain you typically are looking at 3-5 weeks.

    If it's a fracture or dislocation then time away depends on severity. A less severe fracture or dislocation probably means 6-7 weeks in a cast and then another couple weeks afterwards. A severe fracture or dislocation (probably requiring surgey) and it's IR time.
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    Wasn't it what Ty Law had,his last year here? It put him out for almost a year.
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    Yay. Great news.

    Don't give a **** if the media whines about full-strength, blah blah. They will always be pro-Colts anti-Pats, whatever. When we're 19-0 though we will be the undisputed best of all-time and that's all that matters. The Colts not being full strength all season will be forgotten.

    At this point we might not even see the Colts again, being they're the third seed now and this injury certainly won't help their causes. They’ll have to win two playoff games if they want to see us.

    By the way, I haven’t really kept up with Rice since his Tampa days, when he was beast. Has he really declined big time now? How bad is the guy?
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    The Colts will be fine, IMHO-Dungy's system is pretty unique in that when starters go down, his backups come in and do very well. It happened last year when Raeger and Simon went down. And, of course, their shutdown corner didn't play in the Super Bowl.
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    Same injury Ty Law had the year he departed the Patriots. Basically a break in either the first or second metatarsal that results in a dislocation between them. It's a pretty bad foot injury to have.
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    Same injury Rivers had in last seasons playoff game.
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    Even thought he plays for the Colts i'm sorry to hear about his injury.
    I wish no injury on any player.
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    Kevin Jones had his last December and he didn't get back on the field until week 4 or so of this year.
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    Apparently toe "bones" are a lot longer than toes. They take up more than 1/2 the foot. According to this website a Lisfranc injury is when the toe bone is no longer properly connected to the rest of the foot.
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    You can make that argument for some of the games this year, but last year is a horrible example to make any claim that Dungy's system is good for replacement players. They had to go out and trade for Booger McFarland, anyway.

    Freeney isn't as big of a loss as Schlereth and ESPN want you to believe, but it sucks for the Colts.
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    For your sake, you should hope it's still affecting him.
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    Not sure I buy that. You can't keep losing your top players and have nothing change. If Freeney were so replaceable they wouldn't have signed him to that monster contract. I hate Polian as much as anyone but the guy isn't an idiot.
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    The injury occurred to a soldier in Napoleon's army, who got his foot cought in the stirrup while falling off his horse, but the injury is named after the discovering field surgeon Jacques Lisfranc.
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    You mean they can use 42 different starters in a season and still win the Super Bowl?
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    42?? nah...will never happen....they get near 35 they will have troubles...
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    The Colts are toast if this is true. An AFCCG in Foxboro could only go the Colts' way if they get the DE pressure they got in Indy. Freeney was a big part of that. We all saw what happened in the 4th quarter once the Pats bettered their protection...14 points and killed the clock. If Freeney isn't there to give Light and Brady trouble, then the Pats can focus help on Mathis and Brady should have a wide open field to pick apart.

    Regards,
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    P.S. It should be noted that I predicted the Pats would be in trouble without Ty Law vs. the 2004 Colts and 49 TDs Peyton. So Colts fans have hope.
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    John Clayton said the same thing. Looks like he may be out for the year.
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    I was just thinking that :) He OWNS Matt Light!!!! I wish that weren't the case.....but every game against them....we end up sliding the TE in there to help out Light......Freeney has been tough though
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    Does anyone else have a picture in their mind of Bill Polian standing on his front lawn shaking his fist at the sky yelling at God?
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    Jake Long will be manning LT for the Pats from 2008-2019. The next time Freeney lines up against us. He will be dealing with him. 6-7 long arms, tough kid. Nasty run blocker. Freeney will hate playing us. M.Light will move over to RT and have no trouble with Mathis. I see 500+ points for Pats next year too.
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    They are at 36 now....
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    The Colts are a good team. They will be competitive with or without Freeny. The odds of then beating the Pats in Foxborough will go down if he is out for the year but they are by no means out of it. Sometimes a wounded animal is the most dangerous one. Of course it really helps a lot if the officials continue to cheat in the Colts favour as well.
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