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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    Well, to be fair, the numbers themselves ain't lyin'. The interpretation, though, borders on the downright moronic.

    Here are the stats they present in order to "compare" the PHI and NE punting games. First, I will present the raw numbers:

    Punts: PHI 43, NE 22
    Punting yards: PHI 1812, NE 899
    [Gross] Punting average: PHI 42.1, NE 40.9
    Inside 20: PHI 13, NE 8
    Touchbacks: PHI 3, NE 4
    Blocked: PHI 0, NE 0
    Net punting average: PHI 35.3, NE 36.2

    Now here's where it gets interesting. And by interesting, I mean "teh suck." In brackets, I have indicated the "rankings" assigned to the various stats (1 = best, 32 = worst).

    Punts: PHI 43 [18], NE 22 [32]
    Punting yards: PHI 1812 [20], NE 899 [32]
    Yep. . . . apparently more punts is a good thing.

    [Gross] Punting average: PHI 42.1 [25], NE 40.9 [29]
    Because, of course, gross punting average is so important.

    Inside 20: PHI 13 [23], NE 8 [30]
    And it obviously hasn't occurred to them that the number of punts inside the 20 is necessarily a function of the number of punts.

    Touchbacks: PHI 3 [24], NE 4 [15]
    You know, I thought that touchbacks were a bad thing. I guess I was wrong.

    Blocked: PHI 0 [20], NE 0 [17]
    Funny, they look tied to me. . . .

    Net punting average: PHI 35.3 [27], NE 36.2 [22]
    Finally, they get one right.

    Average punting stats rank: PHI 26.2, NE 29.5
    Yep. They take these flawed statistics, and then simply average them out to declare that Philly has the edge in the punting game. Better still, for the life of me, I can't figure out how they got those moronic averages in the first place (last I checked, 177/7 is a lot less than 29.5).
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    I think all of this leads to one simple conclusion, and I think BB has already reached it.

    F*ck punting.
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    So you'ra saying that Philly will win????!?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek: I knew it!!!
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    Uh oh! I hope Philly doesn't come up with a way to use their punting game to score points. We would be screwed!
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    I don't see what's so surprising here, it's roughly as scientific and accurate as Fox News...
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    haha, cuz u know, those guys who say a defense and runing game win u champoinships dont know wut they are talking about...

    neither do the guys who say that the offense win the championships....


    apparently, the PUNTING GAME, is the most important thing when two teams go up against each other, LOL
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    and how many of the pats punts were in the 4th q when we were just running the ball with cassell...and then maybe throwing on 4th down.
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    I recall one punt on the opponents' 30 yard line last week. If you down it inside the 20, it hurts your gross average. If it goes in for a touchback, it hurts your net....
    Instead of punting maybe the Pats should just go for it on 4th down .....
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    You can make statistics say whatever you want them to.

    94% of all people know that!
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    You are dissing one of the best punting units in the history of the game, and right before they come to town.

    Bulletin board material!
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    Re: Foxsports shows how stats *can* lie

    It's not the stats that kill logic; it's people that kill logic.
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