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    A lot of people are kicking dirt on the Pats run of success and calling it the end of this "dynasty" while comparing it to others in the NFL that have come and gone like the Steelers, Cowboys and 49ers. Schein takes a different approach and compares the past to the Yankees.

    Schein playoff rooting interest 011210 - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN

    I agree, plenty of good pieces still here to build another solid team to compete for SB titles.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    We have the peices but these next two seasons are going to determine what direction we are heading in.
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    We have a few needs and a good set of draft picks in this draft. As well as cap space. This is an important offseason, a good one could put us right back on top in 2010.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    Well, the big difference is that the Yankees went to a quarter billion dollar payroll and stayed "in contention." The Pats are need to live with a cap and that always makes it hard to keep the stable full.

    Also, if the Patriots go the way of the Yankees (I think I just threw up in my mouth) then what is the NFL equivalent to blowing Game 4 up 1 run in the 9th inning with a 3-0 series lead...then systematically losing the next 3 games to go down as history's biggest chokers?
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    The Patriots had to take a step back in order to move 10 steps forward. A massive reconstruction started last off season and the Patriots still managed to become the #3 seed in the AFC.

    I look for a huge rebound next year. The younger players will have a full year under their belts and I expect big things from injured draft picks Tyrone McKenzie and Brandon Tate. And as far as I know Brady and Belichick will still be around.

    The AFC is ours again. the Jets got a gift and will play a more difficult schedule next year, and Miami is always overrated. The Bills are ......well they're the Bills.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    McKenzie and Tate have proven absolutely ZERO at this level, so don't count on them.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    Exactly. As long as you have the nucleus, you're still a threat. We aint dead until BB or Brady leaves, period. Until than we will be a constant thorn in the league's side.
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    Except if the year is uncapped.............
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    Those that thought that they watched the Patriot's dynasty end against the Ravens, might have been living in an illusion. I too, was optimistic that the team could survive the loss of Harrison, Bruschi, Vrabel, Samuel and Seymour, but there was no rational reason to be optimistic. Essentially, these players were replaced with less talented free agents and rookies, such as Butler, Chung, Merriweather, Guyton and Mayo.

    The reconstruction has began and the Pats have done a great job at putting themselves in a position to stay on top.

    1. Trading Cassel and Vrabel to KC for the 34th pick in 2009. I expected more from Cassel and hated to see a leader like Vrabel go, but 2009 (IMO) is the anchor to the Patriots reconstruction.

    2. Trading Richard Seymour to OAK for a first rounder in 2011. Where collective bargaining will be this time next year is still a huge question, much like what the draft talent will look like, but the value of a first round pick will prove invaluable to a rebuilding team.

    3. Trading out the first round in 2009 to get second rounder and two third round picks from the Packers. Hopefully Darius Butler, MacKenzie or Tate can produce, otherwise this will look like a huge mistake by Bill. He passed on Oher and Clay Matthews.

    4. 3 picks in the second round in 2010. One was acquired (along with the 7th round pick used on Edelman) from Jacksonville for the 9th overall pick of the 2009 third round. Another was acquired from TEN for a third round pick in 2009.

    I hope that 2009 is much like the rewards from 2003, when Warren, Wilson, Samuel and Koppen all produced in a way to carry the team for another 5 years. So 2010 and 2011 will determine how great this team will be in the future.
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    As we all know, what a difference that would make.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    Brandon Tate is going to be a stud.
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    With or without a cap, the Pats set up to make moves over the next two years. I think Belichick made moves this offseason with that in mind. I think he expected the offense to be better to cover for some of the deficiencies. But I do think he expected to go into this offseason to make some real moves. Even with a conservative approach towards not getting burnt on the cap if it is reinstated after this offseason, I think they have plenty of flexibilty to build.
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    Sure he is, and I'm taking over for Brady next year........get real
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    Hey, no worries guys. Zoostation from the internet says Brandon Tate is "going to be a stud."

    Seems like a pretty open-and-shut case to me.
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    OK gloom of doom.... you're right. He has absolutely no chance of succeeding.

    Better yet...... I think you should take over as the head coach for Belichick for making that horrible pick.

    We're doooooooooomed.
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    The internet reports your last date was a stud too! Must be another open-and-shut case.
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    Isn't that how Collinsworth says it? :p
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    Someone let the Zoostation out of his cage!
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    Re: Fox Sports Schein on Pats

    Would the Patriots have been better off with Matthews? Quite likely (but for all we know, Matthews might have blown out his knee in mini-camp the way McKenize did).

    But given how well Vollmer's turned out so far, I don't think anyone can really argue that the Patriots clearly made a mistake by not taking Oher at 23.
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    As much as everyone wants to make fun of zoostation's opinion here, I have to say that I am excited about Tate, if he can stay healthy. He is a tremendous asset as a kick returner, he's physical and he's fast. I think he is the best receiver prospect they've had on this team in years--talent wise he matches up with the Chad Jacksons and Bethel Johnsons they've had in years past.

    Now, I sure hope that he has to scratch and fight just to make the team, because they've brought in some veteran talent and maybe someone in through the draft to compete for a spot. I still think we're going to see Brandon Tate making some plays for the Pats---IF he can shake the injury bug.
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    heheheheheheheh
    What a stallion!!
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    Lord knows those 2 guys turned into real stallions for our team!!
    I'm really hoping this guy is even good enough to be a 4th WR, and it doesn't take him 4 years to "get it", especially since his 1st year was a waste.
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    Of course those guys lacked studness, but ability was never a question, it was work ethic, effort, etc. All I am saying is that Tate is a good enough athlete with a productive enough college career that there is reason to be encouraged by his ability. As far as next season goes, if he is healthy I think he could make a huge contribution in the return game, where it is clear the Pats need a shot in the arm.
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    In his first 5 years, Bill did more right than wrong.

    In his last 5 years, he's done more wrong than right.

    That's why this is a franchise in decline, and will continue to decline as long as Bill has final & unquestioned say on personnel matters, and the coordinators of his undermanned & underpaid coaching staff are inexperienced, subservient lackeys.
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