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  1. JSn

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    As we look at a year of significant players hitting FA next year, and most of us feel Vince is the most important one to retain, I wonder who are the Vince Wilfork's and Richard Seymour's of the past?

    Are there players in the teams history that were still ballers but were considered a risk to move on that made you legitimately worried about how they would be replaced? Who? Why?

    Looking forward to some retrospect from the guys and gals who lived through the lean years of Patriot's football.
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    I felt like crying when we traded Mike Haynes to the Raiders. You just don't trade hall of fame talent when they can still play.
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    Curtis Martin.
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    Haynes and the Hannah/Gray holdout. Best CB in the league and the best OG.OT combo in the NFl.
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    Well, I haven't been around a long time, but I've been a Pats fan since birth (my dad made sure of that).

    Growing up, my favorite player had been Curtis Martin. I remember actually meeting him at the team hotel the night before a game in 95 or 96 (so I was only five or six), and he really was an inspiration to me playing running back through out my youth years.

    However, after 97, Curtis bolted to the Jets under Parcells. I remember being in the car with my dad. I was only 7 years old.

    He was forced to explain to me that football was a business, like everything else in the world.

    I was really heartbroken, and I'll remember that day for the rest of my life.

    Kind of off base, but that is one player who I guess was considered a risk to move...
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    I never knew how we would replace Coates, Armstrong or Law. We never did.
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    this was way before my time, but what was the deal with Plunkett leaving town?

    He was with the Pats before the Raiders, right?
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    Not from so long ago, but my answer is Ty Law.
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    For all those Vince fans with short memories.....Ted Washington.....He left and we havent won a super bowl since.
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    Losing Ben Coates at the time really flipped me out.

    And under the circumstances in which he departed, Curtis Martin made me want to throw every single TV set in my house out the window.
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    Chad Jackson for me. He's not a bust, he just needs guidance... BOOK IT!

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    Curtis Martin was in his absolute prime, that one stung. Of course, Bill Parcells leaving for the J-E-T-S was a non-player, but that was even more angst-inducing. Honorable mention for how the Patriots would ever replace Earthwind Moreland. I'm also concerned that the secondary may not ever bounce back from losing Deltha O'Neal's combination of diminished athleticism and poor technique.

    Seriously though the first two sucked.
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    Curtis Martin :( I remember from when I was a kid
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    Nick Buoniconti
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    Curtis Martin
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    But we could probably get those guys to sign Vet Min contracts now, couldn't we? ;)
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    For me its not even close - Ted Johnson's shocking sudden retirement absolutely killed me

    He might have been the best sure tackling ILB I have ever witnessed as a Pats fan.
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    We won Super Bowl 39 without Ted Washington. Washington signed with Oakland after the 2003 season.

    We also won our first Super Bowl without Ted Washington
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    Keith Traylor was almost as good the next season
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    There are many that surely believe that Haynes would have been a welcome addition to the secondary last year.
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    I remember being worried about Milloy given how quickly it seemed to happen
    (or maybe I just had a crap attention span for offseason stuff), and that doubt was only reafirmed when the Bills spanked us in the season opener. Then of course Big Ted W, Curtis, and Law. When Coates went I was young enough I didn't really appreciate him. My first football memory was Ben dragging two or three Jesters into/close to the end-zone to take the lead (?maybe pull within striking distance...this was the earlier Bledsoe years I believe =) to be shortly followed by excellent NE Kick coverage which resulted in a Ny td, or maybe just a bomb...in any case the Jests punched one quickly in responce and that was that. My dad simply laughed and said "Thats why they call them the Jets." Hmmm, maybe not the clearest of memories, but I know it took 3 guys to take Coates down!
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    And Deltha O'No was almost a quality backup last year:rolleyes:
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    Ted Washington with the Pats in 2003 - 45 tackles - Defense ranked 4th in the league

    Keith Traylor with the Pats in 2004 - 33 tackles - 98.3 average per game allowed against the run - Defense ranked 6th in 2004


    Thats not considered close by you??? - idiot
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    The '03-'04 defense was the best defense I've witnessed as a Pats fan, and no, I don't think Traylor had the same impact on a game as big Ted did. '04-'05 was good, but not as dominate as the year before. Although, its a good thing Washington left when he did, otherwise we might not have snagged Wilfork in the '04 draft.

    You can regurgitate stats and fling poo?! Aww thats too bad, I'm fresh out of cookies.
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    I'll second this. I'm only 22 and have been watching for half as long as most of you so Martin is the only stud loss I can remember. Although I'm not sure if I actually feared losing him (I was really young at the time and just getting into football).
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    This is going to sound a little bizarre, but here's a wild card name to throw out there: Drew Bledsoe...

    After the magical 2001 ride, it was pretty evident that Brady >>> Bledsoe, but this was still the man with a $100 million arm, and he was going to a divisional rival?? I dreaded those two Bills games in 2002 (which, of course, the Pats won handily). New England pretty much owned Drew through 2004 (save the Lawyer Milloy bowl, of course), but at the time of that trade, I wished he had gone anywhere but Buffalo.
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    That's easy for Me ,it was Mike Haynes when He was traded to The Raiders.He was the best at his position nat the time of the trade and he was also a great punt returner.He had talents that the Patriots have never replaced and I include Ty Law in that comment.Mike Haynes and Ray Claiborne were the best pair of Cornerbacks that The Patriots ever had.
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    In no particular order;

    Drew Bledsoe
    Curtis Martin
    Willie Mac
    Ben Coates
    Lawyer Milloy
    Ty Law
    Only one of these proved to be devestating....Martin :mad:


    How about Daryl Stingley?
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