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  1. DaBruinz

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    It was mentioned yesterday that the Jaguars have 16 players in the IR.

    Also, the Eagles have quite a few players on the IR again.
     
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    FloridaPatsFan Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Make no mistake about it. If the Jags had stayed healthy this year, they might be good enough to win it all.
     
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    PatsSteve1 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Aren't Wilson and Seau the only missing starters? And Miller I guess.
     
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    Harrison was gone for awhile..Hobbs was gone for a bit.

    Graham has been hurt this year..Neal..


    not just about IR..missing time hurts us
     
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    PatsSteve1 In the Starting Line-Up

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    * There's other teams with far more injury problems with thier best players on IR. Injuries are going to be there every year. It's part of football every year and really isn't a good excuse with the possible exception of losing your franchise QB. IMO, it's just excuse making.
     
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    notex Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    there is also mitchell, tebucky jones, gay, and pass - not starters or stars but all solid players that could contribute at ST and add depth
    add in geno and seau thats a decent sized IR

    could certainly be worse
     
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    Some of the "big" names on Jacksonville's IR:

    -Dan Connolly
    -Jim Davis
    -Brent Hawkins
    -Brian Jones
    -Elton Patterson
    -Chris Roberson
    -Nick Sorensen
    -Tony Williams
     
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    I do not think the injuries have been as bad as 05 or possibly 04...maybe closer to 03...but nowhere near 05. I agree it IS part of the game and no excuse at alll.
     
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    Mike Peterson - Pro Bowl MLB
    Greg Jones - FB who can run
     
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    The Patriots are fairly healthy going into the playoffs, assuming no boo boos this coming week. I have no complaints.

    What starters are out ? Wilson and Seau. Anyone else ? (assuming Vince and Ben are OK for Playoffs Week 1)
     
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    I would expect that two of the four special teamers would have made the team. Andrews and others have more than made up for these players.

     
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    Don't agree with that statement. Leftwich hasn't proven himself.

    and injuries are part of the game. so who really cares?
     
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    The Patriots consistently have tons of injuries as oppossed to having one year of bad injuries.
     
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    Harrison is not a bad injury? Ty Law is not bad injury? Losing your center isn't a bad injury?

    what consititutes a bad injury?

    i think going to the IR is bad
     
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    You're misunderstanding. I said the Pats don't just have one year where they get pelted with tons of injuries. EVERY year they are among the most injured teams in the league.
     
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    If this is really true, then the conditioning program should be questioned.

     
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    so what is your point behind your statement? are you saying bad luck or conditioning as mentionned above?

    maybe they are just an incredibly physical team and that takes its toll, not too mention they played in a ton of games in their back to back superbowls.
     
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    I'm not saying anything about the reason one way or another.

    My point was just that during the game the announcer said Jack Del Rio won't feel bad for the Patriots injury situation because he has a butt load himself. And my point was that on any given year there are teams with a lot of injuries, but every year the Patriots are near the top of the list of most injured teams, so I don't think teams like the Jags can say they have it as bad as them.

    But I don't think it is a conditioning problem. Kraft cuts no corners and brings the team the best facilities and meal programs. I don't think the medical services and conditioning would be any different.

    In fact, I believe the team has the same conditioning coach as the great Cowboys teams of the 90's, and during one of the Pats games Troy Aikman went out of his way to say how great he is.
     
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    Mike Woicik has 6 superbowl rings the most of any coach in the NFL, was named conditioning coach of the year on two occasions.. hard to criticize him for broken bones..
     
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    The conditioning program should be questioned if there is a rash of hamstring or groin injuries that land players on the IR. However, when you review the Pats injuries from 2003 to present, you will see that a majority of them are of the catastrophic nature. Ones that no matter how much stretching or strength training you do, they aren't going to be prevented. Like Harrison's broken arm. Wilson's broken arm. Seau's broken arm. Light's ACL. Koppen's torn shoulder ligaments. etc. etc.
     

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