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  1. DarrylS

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    ballwashers and rumpswabs... he was a good grade "B" actor, but his presidency is scrutinized... he promised that his tax cuts would lead to a "trickle down" benefit for all.. every day I check my mail, but nothing happens..

    He botched the response to Hezbollah, after they blew up a Marine Barracks and killed 241... as he did nothing, some believe that this emboldened Hezbollah and inspired more terrorism..

    He negotiated with the Iranians prior to be inaugarated, which is a very serious offense.. why negotiate with Carter, when they can negotiate with Reagan??.. The famous "October Surprise".. which did some backchannel negotiations with Iran in July and August prior to the election, effectively delaying their release for a great photo op.. never can get over this...

    "Mr. Gorbachev, please tear down this wall".. was a classic photo op on the eve of the collapse of the Soviet Union..

    Then the whole "Iran Contra Affair".. which in today's blogosphere would probably lead to very serious calls for impeachment..

    The whole "WWRD What Would Reagan Do" mantra is beginning to be played out in this years election cycle, the easy answer is to make it into a Hollywood Production... and do not play by any rules..

    What Would Reagan Really Do? - Newsweek

     
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    Let's not forget "the war for drugs."
     
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    I think he also was one of the founding authors of the three strikes rule.. which led to the booming business of prisons..
     
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    #91 Jersey

    A few days ago a couple of former KGB agents were asked what they thought about Reagan in general and the Berlin wall speech in particular, they said. Not to much he WAS an actor after all. So the Soviets had the same perception of Reagan that i did......That he was an actor playing a roll POTUS.
     
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    You are full of shyt, while you folks are infatuated with what might be.. when things are pointed out about what is, you deflect.. if you have something to add about your deity do so.. if not do not hijack a thread that has more truth than most... when you are done with your right wing circle jerk, make sure you wipe up...

    The reality is that if Reagan was prez during this time, several of his shenanigans would have been impeachable.. but you claim that he was a far more successful president, based on what right wing lies and hyperbole.. study the facts and get back to us..

    INOW no one gives a flying f.. ck about Wright except the right...
     
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    Reagan & What We Have Now:

    Obama has already dethroned Jimmy Carter as the worst president the country has ever had.

    Reagan wasn't perfect but he makes Obama look like the kid that empty's waste baskets in City Hall.

    Jeremiah Wright Is A Racist Bastard (he baptized the obama kids)
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Well, Newsweek why didn't you ask what Truman would have done or Kennedy? Talk about deflection and buck passing. I guess I can understand it though. You can only point fingers at the Bush's for excuses so long before people get wise to that shtick but didn't they know we'd figure this latest one out too?

    YES WE CAN(pass the buck for 4 years)

    I guess we missed the fine print on those bumper stickers:rolleyes:
     
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    Bring The Troops Home
    Close Gitmo

    Did You Plug The Hole Yet Daddy
     
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    Go beyond the newsweek article..\

    Why didn't he go after Hezbollah after they took out 241 Marines??

    Why did we allow him to get a free ride for negotiating with Iran, in July/August before elected??.. Isn't that some type of constitutional infraction?? That was such a grandstand event, the day after inaugarated they were released.. what a coincidink that was:confused::confused::confused:

    Contend that the the whole Iran/Contra thing if happened today, it would have led to impeachment.. at that time many were still lemmings and the court of public opinion could not weigh in.. instead its principal, Oliver North, is a leader in the conservative network.. he should be in Leavenworth..

    The reality is that this deity of the right is nothing more than a grade B actor and a carbon copy of Tricky Dick Nixon.. so when people invoke the mantra of "What Would Reagan Do".. WWRD.. immediately I think of cheat, lie, manipulate and act.
     
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    From Washington to Obama:
    No president has been perfect, fault can be found with them all.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Lets say Regan f'd everything up he ever did. Lets say he should have been impeached and the right is wrong about everything and is the party of no and AZ is wrong on their law,...I can go on and on. Newsweek can write about that every week for the next two years. Though all of that cover this administration still has to perform however. Do they think the more they deflect the higher their poll numbers will go?
     
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    Like they all do, presidents are politicians, you don't make it to the White House being an "honset trust worthy loyal nice guy".

    This clown we have now has only been on the job for a matter of months and even many of his groupies are starting to realize what a Phony he is.
     
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    Did not think about their poll numbers of Newsweek, this has been on my mind everytime I hear the mantra about Reagan, just showing how this man who is usually deified by the right is not what he is made out to be.. many call this context or perspective.. Reagan did more tons more bad than good.

    Did not make the comparison to Obama.. Reagan f..ed up enough on his own, and the right wants to ignore all of his faux pas and constitutional violations..

    In the words of another poster, Coke or Pepsi???
     
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    The idea of FEMA camps also was under his watch - yes, Bush II and now Obama have really gotten them under full swing, but the INITIAL stages came under Reagan.

    50 second mark
    YouTube - Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra
     
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    Put the whole thing in perspective..

    In July of 2008 Obama's crew somehow secretly negotiated with some entity to capture Bin Laden.. and on Jan 22, 2009 Bin Laden was all of a suddent captured and Obama became some hero... how would people feel about this??

    Or if George Bush got into some triangle affair with a couple of other countries to arrange for the demise of Saddam Hussein and his kids, by trading drugs and arms to other countries?? Would people have thought that would be OK??

    Can you imagine if Bush or Obama, after 241 Marines were lost in a terrorist attack, that we would just withdraw from the country where that happened and there was no retaliation??

    Just think those who believe that Reagan was some type of savior are complete morons... they love the man, but do not like the sordid, unconstitutional issues.. he was a very good actor.
     
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    What's the matter gramps?
    Someone drink all your prune juice?
    Why turn a blind eye to a racist president and his racist mentor.

    Reagan is dead, people loved him..... get over it.
    He may not have been the smartest president, but he did a good job.
    I remember the 21% interest rate I had for my 1st car in 1979 under
    Jimmy Carter.

    All you coward liberals continue to hide your head in the sand.
     
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    Interesting comments grasshopper, you have learned your lessons well.. glad to see that all that time you spend listening to the dittohead nation has paid off:rocker::rocker::rocker:.. never deal with the issue, deflect and hijack the thread and then throw in some ad hominen attacks...

    This is too deep for the young'uns, go back to the hysteria/hyperbole stuff that suits you better... the reality in this day and age of continual information Reagan would have faced impeachment for his shenanigans.. that is what that thread is about.
     
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    #91 Jersey

    Yeah if they went after Bubba for his handy work with cigars just imagine ronny trying to get out of the Iran -conta affair
     
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    #70 Jersey

    I have to disagree with this totally. This is false.

    The Soviets tried to test Reagan and found him unbendable, esp. at Reykjavik, with Star Wars, with putting nukes in West Germany, with the unacceptably harsh statement--to the secular elites--calling the Soviet Union the Evil Empire. He did things that rattled the Soviets, which is why Gorbachev made the decision he did, thankfully, to institute "perestroika" and "glasnost." They got the latter but not much of the former.

    China is seemingly the opposite, an authoritarian country letting companies set up shop the environment a distant consideration.
     

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