Patters had asked me in another thread where I was getting some of the info I had posted. I promosed him some links. In the course of putting together my repy, I ended up putting down my POV on Foleygate. So I decided to start a thread on the blogs. IMO the MSM isn't interested in getting to the facts, they are interested in pushing an agenda. Conservatives and Libertarians don't believe the MSM is objective or that they are really represented in the MSM, as a result they have developed their own alternative media. OK Patters here is a summary from my POV, and some links to bloggers who are covering and investigating Foleygate. I will first stipulate than RW are glad Foley is gone and deserves what he got. He has resigned, so Foley per se is no longer the issue. Pelosi, Dean and others have accused of covering up for Foley. The dems have demanded that Hastert resign for covering up for Foley. The alleged cover up involves 2 sets of documents, an email to a minor (ex page) from LA, This email was written in 2005. This email was non sexual in nature but did inquire about the ex page and asked for a picture. The parents of the boy contacted Congressman Alexander and asked that Foley send no more emails they considered odd. Hastert was notified and spoke with Foley. Apparently no more emails were sent to the boy. Copies of the email were circulated to press sources, the press concluded they were possibly odd but too innocuous to follow up on. BTW the parents stated today that they were satisfied with the way Hastert handled the situation with respect to their boy. (As an aside I can imagine that if Hastert had forced Foley out at this point he would have been accused of being homophobic and roasted by the same folks who are denouncing hem now for 'not doing enough'.) There was also a set of sexually explicit IM's that were written during 2003, these were the smoking gun that led to Foley's resignation and to the claims of cover up and for Hastert's resignation. Who saved these IM's? Who knew about these IM's? When did they know about the IM's? These are all questions that need to be answered. It must be noted that when the identity of the writer of the IM's was identified it turned that they were written to an ex-page who was at the time an adult. Nonetheless, if Hastert (or any other congressperson) knew about these IM's and didn't act on them, they could legitimately accused of not acting to protect pages who could be harmed by Foley (although there is no assertion he ever had physical contact with any of the pages). ABC reacted to the disclosure of Edmund's identify and the IM's being between adults by setting up on their blog a place for other pages approached by Foley to contact ABC, and indeed a couple of other ex pages claim to have been contacted by Foley. At least 1 has claimed that Foley sent sexually explicit IM's before he was 18. I don't consider this very importantly frankly. Why? Well, Foley is not in office and the other pages never told anyone of these contacts, so no one in a position to stop Foley had proof of illegal or immoral activity. Also the motive of these ambitious young men could be questioned. Since there is no way to verify their claims. The issue has moved on Foley has been disgrace and is now (thankfully) out of office. link to the blog that has IMO done the best job of tracking the developments in this story: http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/ The blog who identified the page who exchanged and saved the IM's with Foley from 2003: http://passionateamerica.blogspot.com/ A blog with some info on the issue of 'the list', a supposed list of gay republican staffers, who left wingers are threatening to 'out'. This is sort of funny in a weird way. The presumption is that the gay staffers will be forced or damaged if they are outed. I'm not sure about this since a number of conservative legislators have openly gay staffers (Santorum eg). http://justoneminute.typepad.com/ The bloggers have done a very good job of getting publicly available info and putting it out there. There is a lot of speculation about how the dots connect. But the story is still incomplete. You do wonder why the 'professionals' in the MSM, haven't discovered this info? The Rathergate forgeries wouldn't have been found out if not for the blogsphere either. IMO this is why the (biased) MSM is currently losing viewers/readership.