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    Who goes? Who stays? Any surprises?

    It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Jake Ballard, Tavon Wilson, and Jake Bequette cut on Tuesday. I could also throw Adrian Wilson in that category.

    Thoughts?
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    I don't think any of the guys you mentioned will leave this years roster.
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    Id say Tebow but someone has to play in the 4th preseason game, after that i'll drive him to the airport myself.
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    Where was it stated that I expect any of them to be cut? I stated it wouldn't surprise me if any of them were basing off what I've seen from them in preseason games.

    Again, no one said they will or are expected to get cut. And did you watch the game against the Lions? Neither of the players you placed in bold looked too good in my books.
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    First round of cuts only needs to get the team down to 75, so I think we're looking at a Kamar Aiken type rather than a Jake Ballard type. Pulling from the currently listed Patriots roster (It's late, so I'm trusting its accuracy over my memory):

    Official Website of the New England Patriots | Team - Players

    George Winn
    Brice Schwab
    Luke Patterson
    Evan Landy
    Josh Kline
    Johnathan Haggerty
    Justin Green
    Ben Bartholomew
    Kamar Aiken/Quentin Sims/Mark Harrison - My guess is Sims, but I could see any of them going
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    I think he gets the red shirt IR year.
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    If guys are gonna get IRed, it'll probably be at this deadline, if my memory from past seasons serves correctly. But if that doesn't happen, here are the 9 guys I would cut:

    Bartholomew
    Winn
    Haggerty
    Landi
    Koutouvides (they know what they have in him and he won't sign elsewhere)
    Davis
    B. Jones
    Lewis
    Zupancic
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    I think this is a fairly accurate picture of the guys that are most definitely gone after Tuesday especially Justin Green. He's lucky for his sake Belichick didn't just cut him right on the field. I know I would've.

    Do you think the Patriots sees Harrison as an intriguing development type that they could stash this season if he's too injured/far gone to do much or PUP him for practice squad considerations later on down the line? That seems to be the sentiments around these parts
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    I can definitely see this as well. Though Justin Green should logically be one of the first kicked to the curb. Perhaps Koutouvides could be swapped out for him?
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    This team loves measurables, so I would expect them to try finding a way to keep Harrison around.
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    I think Green is terrible, but at least he gets playing time. They'd be too thin on corners for game 4 without him.
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    This is a reaasonable list.

    We could see players moved to IR.


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    I wouldn't think that we're cutting any offensive linemen. We need all we have for the second half.

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    There is no way Adrian Wilson gets cut.
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    I like Sims....in fact I like his game a lot...if cut, I look to the practice squad...he's got great size and is polished at route running IMO...he actually stuck out in that putrid 2nd half. If Mallett had been less nervous and more accurate Sims could have had a number of catches and possibly a score. I watched the game again, like a psycho and it's no mistake, the kid can play in this league
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    I wouldn't expect it but i wouldn't rule it out, sometimes these guys reach a wall athletically and it doesn't show up until camp and pre-season and they are done. I would hope he plays well for them this season but his performance on thursday was awful.It will depend upon his body of work this camp/pre-season but i would no longer have him in a lock category.
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    yep, sounds about right.
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    I agree. He's shown more in actual preseason games than Kamar Aiken has so far. It's possible that he survives this wave of cuts to be apart of the last preseason game then gets waived into the practice squad.
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    Is the measurable you are referring to attending Rutgers??
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    are you trying to out do the guy who started the massive fail thread about how badly we were gonna beat the Lions?
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    I hate to say it but even Marquise Cole is better than Green, jeez
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    Aiken goes before Sims, IMO.
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    My guesses:

    DLman Armond Armstead & WR Mark Harrison to PUP/NFI
    FB Ben Bartholomew
    WR Kamar Aiken (to IR?)
    TE Evan Landi
    1 of OLmen Chris McDonald, Luke Patterson or Brice Schwab (all 3 suck equally)
    DT Cory Grissom to IR
    CB Brandon Jones (to IR?)
    LS Mike Zupancic
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    Don't forget that in order to put a player on Injured Reserve right now he first has to clear waivers (waive/injured), and then only if nobody claims him you can then place him on IR; it's the same situation that resulted in the Patriots claiming Jake Ballard. That doesn't change until the final roster cuts August 31, when teams need to get down to 53 players.

    Aiken, Grissom and Jones would likely clear waivers but Armstead and Harrison would still count as being on the 75-man roster for now; they can't go from pre-season PUP or NFI to the in-season version until September 1.
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    From what I've been reading, Sims seems to be ahead of Aiken at this moment. Harrison seems an obvious IR move, considering he hasn't practiced even once, and we are heading towards the last week of preseason. Aiken impressed early in camp, but seems to have disappeared. The fact that Sims came in late, and is still around, makes me think they feel they have something there. Hopefully, they both wind up on our practice squad.
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    I don’t really see any reason to cut Mark Harrison, he is on PUP currently and can remain there either till midseason or redshirt and move to IR if they don’t believe he is ready in 2013.
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    The first wave of cuts will come out this group of players; the players you mentioned if cut at all would happen in final cuts.

    Allen, Ryan
    Bartholomew, Ben
    Davis, Kanorris
    Green, Justin
    Haggerty, Johnathan
    Jones, Brandon
    Kline, Josh
    Landi, Evan
    Lewis, LeQuan
    Patterson, Luke
    McDonald, Chris
    Schwab, Brice
    Sims, Quentin
    White, Anthony Rashad
    Winn, George
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    To me, Sims appeared to be better at getting open and making the contested catches during the training camp than Dobson. I think if Dobson and Sims were both UDF's and joined the team at the same time then Sims would have beaten Dobson for a roster spot. :beatingcoming:

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