Welcome to PatsFans.com

First Embryonic Stem-Cell Trial Gets Approval From the FDA

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by Holy Diver, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0

    #80 Jersey

    First Embryonic Stem-Cell Trial Gets Approval From the FDA - WSJ.com

    By RON WINSLOW and ALICIA MUNDY
    In a watershed moment for one of the most contentious areas of science and American politics, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration cleared the way for the first-ever human trial of a medical treatment derived from embryonic stem cells.

    ==================================================================


    HOLY CRAP!!!!!

    this is great news!
     
  2. Run DMC

    Run DMC In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -3

    #24 Jersey

    Dragging the religious nuts kicking and screaming into the 21st century! I'm glad my vote for Obama has not been in vain thus far.
     
  3. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,675
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    Wait a minute!
    You mean the federal government is into science? This ought to be interesting. Lets see how many additional abortions this causes.
     
  4. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,784
    Likes Received:
    250
    Ratings:
    +631 / 17 / -16

    #24 Jersey

    The so-called ban on ESCR was so overblown it wasn't funny. So federal funds weren't to be used. Big deal. In CA alone we had a $3B (that's Billion) bond measure that passed in 2004 for ESCR. 4 years ago, no words yet on the breakthroughs :rolleyes:

    I hope progress is made as much as anyone but let's not pretend ESCR was illegal until last week and suddenly it's sprouting up everywhere.
     
  5. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0

    #80 Jersey

    I think what IS important in all ofthis is the approval of Human tests by the FDA. The request for testing was presented a year ago. Imagine the stink that would've been put up by the former Prsident and his Faith based supporters on this. We currently have a President who has stated that he believe in this research and also that it really should be a state by state case.

    what you will NOT get now, is backlash from the administration...and that is wonderful!



    Green energy, and New medical breakthroughs is what will lead our nation back to prosperity.
     
  6. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,784
    Likes Received:
    250
    Ratings:
    +631 / 17 / -16

    #24 Jersey

    I'll believe it when I see it. $3B four years ago and we've cured . . . what ? And that windmill on top of my car hasn't helped my mileage at all. Fairytales are fun but that's all this stuff is right now.
     
  7. Synovia

    Synovia In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    3,922
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    How much cash have we put in to trying to cure cancer, or aids? Its a lot more than $3B. That doesn't make it a bad persuit.



    its tough to cure anything when the FDA wont let you test or administer on humans. Oh wait, its not tough, its illegal.
     
  8. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,784
    Likes Received:
    250
    Ratings:
    +631 / 17 / -16

    #24 Jersey

    I didn't mean it's a bad pursuit. Heck, my mom has a nasty cancer as I type this, I'd like it cured as fast as possible. What I do object to is the suggestion that Bush was significantly hindering breakthroughs that were around the corner. The only thing that was prohibited was federal funds on new stem cells. There were still plenty of options including states and private companies. As I said, CA approved $3B all by itself, that's just one state (admittedly a big one).
     
  9. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0

    #80 Jersey

    though the article states there is no political connection to the timing of this research....

    Ha!


    right.
     
  10. Synovia

    Synovia In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    3,922
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    And trials on human beings. How are you to cure things if you cant test?
     
  11. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    28,110
    Likes Received:
    809
    Ratings:
    +2,533 / 33 / -55

    No Jersey Selected

    Human testing is great news. I had family members that could have benefitted from research like this (if there do turn out to be benefits). But, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure all of you will), doesn't something like this require a Congressional vote as well?
     
  12. apple strudel

    apple strudel Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,894
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    Federal funds though are by far the biggest source of publicly funded scientific research. No question. California only shelled out that money after W prohibited it on the federal level. Given a choice, California would of course rather gotten that money from the feds.
     
  13. Stokes

    Stokes In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Do we really have to go over this again? There was a ban on federal money for the creation of new stem cell lines. AT NO POINT WAS STEM CELL RESEARCH ILLEGAL. The timing of this is coincidence, it would have been legal during the previous admin as well.

    come on people, let's step it up a bit.
     
  14. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,601
    Likes Received:
    714
    Ratings:
    +1,896 / 12 / -18

    #75 Jersey

    Goodbye to the Dark Ages!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hello to the Renaissance!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Stokes

    Stokes In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Yes but that ignores all the private money used.
     
  16. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,784
    Likes Received:
    250
    Ratings:
    +631 / 17 / -16

    #24 Jersey

    You just make yourself look dumb saying things like that.
     
  17. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    27,420
    Likes Received:
    265
    Ratings:
    +709 / 7 / -2

    It's nice to have some brains back in the forum. Now only if Pujo would stick around too. Pujo come back!
     
  18. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    15
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0

    #80 Jersey

    Its crazy to me that we would halt funding, stem cell lines, and human testing on possible cures for disease because of faith based beliefs.

    Its like we boast being so FREE, yet don't have the freedom to persue a cure. I know some people will say that the ban is on federal money used, and not the research itself. Ask yourslef how much money have you given to aids research and finding a cure for cancer....? It HUGE task, and needs a ton of funding...


    here are the easy figures....

    lets see....Private funding and some state funding (Cali) has produces 4 BILLION in funding over 10 years.....thats not a $h!tload by any stretch of the imagination.

    The National Institutes of Health spent $24.3 million dollars on human embryonic stem-cell research last year.

    The NIE's annual budget is 30 BILLION





    If you believe that using ebryodic stem cells is a form of abortion.....don't accept any cures that come from it. Its as simple as that.

    I'm thrilled that we will see what happens during human trials, these will be breakthrough years in medical science! We have the capacity to lead the world in stem cell research. We, as a nation, need a new industry. If our leadership cures disease and furthers our undersatnding of the body and medicine....why halt any funding or avenue to get there?
     
  19. Leave No Doubt

    Leave No Doubt PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,609
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +10 / 0 / -0

    On a somewhat related note:
    Obama reverses abortion-funding policy - CNN.com


    Not even waiting a week, the new administration has acted to funnel U.S. tax dollars to abortion providers overseas," Rep. Tom Price, R-Georgia, said in a written statement.
     
  20. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,784
    Likes Received:
    250
    Ratings:
    +631 / 17 / -16

    #24 Jersey

    Well we knew he was a baby killer so this is no surprise. Interesting quote :

    ""Family planning should not be a political issue; it's about basic health care and well-being for women and children," the group said."

    Riiiight. Being ripped apart in your mother's womb increases basic health care and well being for the children. Disgusting pig.
     

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>