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  1. stcjones

    stcjones Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    #12 Jersey

    While I know (from listening to hours of sports radio today) that basically EVERY team is guilty of stealing signals and doing whatever they can to obtain an advantage (SEE Colts turning up the heat and pumping in crowd noise during last years playoffs)...I am VERY disappointed in BB and the Patriots organization for doing something as IGNORANT and arrogant as this.

    Firstly, we are talking about the New England Patriots here...the team that almost EVERY TALKING HEAD IN THE SPORTS MEDIA LOVES TO HATE!!! Why take this kind of risk...WHEN YOU KNOW FULL WELL...that the PATS will pay the ultimate price for something like this, and be given the most severe penalty possible...while other teams would be able to skate away on it!!!!

    The Pats know this...If This situation involved the Colts, or Steelers, or even the Doofins or Jets (Who were both caught doing the SAME EXACT THING)..it would NEVER have caused this kind of upset or situation...

    And this all comes back to Bill Belichick...why the **** did we need this jackoff videotaping anything from the sidelines against the JESTS OF ALL **** teams????? We could have beaten them with our scrubs on Sunday for cripe's sakes...I am so ****ed off right now...

    Now all you freakin' hear is "Does this tarnish the Patriots 3 SB victories?" Mark Schlereth: "Well of course it does!" Why Mark you D-bag???? This is one incident...any other team that is coming forward attacking the Pats right now (like the lowly Green Bay Packers)...are a bunch of sore ***ed losers...

    But you watch the scumbag media come out of the woodwork to attack the Pats...who everyone in the media once again loves to hate...and try to now DIMINISH EVERYTHING THAT THE PLAYERS and organization, and US, THE FANS...have worked to achieve...all because of one ARROGANT AND ignorant act...by Bill Belichick and his coaching staff...

    I will wait until all the evidence comes out...and wait for a verdict...but if you don't think the league is going to give them the harshest punishment possible (while others would have gotten a slap on the wrist)...you are being naive...

    If Guilty.....this will go down as a HUGE blemish on Bill Belichick........despite this stuff being done by all teams.........F$^k......what were you thinking Bill?
     
  2. Nordy

    Nordy Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    He seriously has some good explaining to do.
     
  3. Kdo5

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    I think his chances of HoF are gonzo after this....
     
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    Are you on crack?
     
  5. Bill's Girl

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    Everyone is making some huge leaps and assumptions here..... He will take responsibility for this because he is the HC. Does this mean he handed the guy the camera and told him to film the Jets? NO... Do you really think he knew about this and sanctioned it?

    Let's put this in perspective people, it is a video tape of Jets signals. Hours and hours of video tape exist from Jets games, and Mangini's plays when he worked here. Do you honestly think Mangini can outcoach BB? Do you really think BB needs that kind of competitive edge?

    As for the HOF......a double MURDERER still has a bust displayed at Canton. Do you honestly think BB will lose HOF consideration because his TEAM was involved in a minor rule violation or are we going to add Rodney's sin as another "chink in the armor." Are you people fricken kidding me??

    Cripes, all of you doomsdayers are making it sound like BB was running an HGH ring or set up a kool-aid stand with anabolics in the punch. After the third Superbowl, this man could do no wrong, now people are acting like he morphed into Hitler...... This is insane!
     
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    Kdo5 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Alright, alright sorry for taking it too far.
     
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    In addition to the film they were also intercepting radio signals from the other side.

    Belichick should be forced to resign, this is embarrasing for the NFL
     
  8. Pat_the_Patriot

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    WHAT?

    This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... but you want to kick the coach of our team while he's down AND call yourself a fan?

    If we cheated AND the league decides to take a draft pick or two OR EVEN suspends BB (which I doubt will happen) then... so be it.

    First off, why don't we wait to see what is going to happen here before jumping all over the man. We don't know all of the facts, I'm guessing that BB, Kraft and the Commish do or will soon.

    Secondly... regardless of what punishment the league doles out... BB is worth it. PERIOD. EVEN IF THEY TAKE BOTH OF OUR FIRST ROUNDERS (a ridiculous thought) next year... having BB as our coach would STILL be worth it. Do you really think that there is a team in this league that wouldn't give up two first rounders for BB to come coach their team?

    Third... if you are happy being a fan of the best team in football... then you MUST be happy with BB. Winning is part of who the man is... he lives and breathes to win football games... if he can gain an edge for OUR TEAM by doing ANYTHING... he does it... it's one of the reasons that we have been so successful. If every team's coach isn't doing everything they can to help their team to win... then I question that coach and I question that team.

    Fourth... all the trolls coming here and "speaking their mind".... forget about them. WE get to watch the best team in football, week in and week out. WE get to cheer for a future HoF coach who is already considered one of the best that ever was AND MIGHT JUST BE THE BEST THAT THERE EVER HAS BEEN.... if you think differently and you are just a fan of the league... WELL WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK... but if you think differently AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A PATS FAN.... IMHO, you don't even deserve to wear a Pats Jersey.

    Who remembers sitting on the metal bleachers just dying for a .500 season?
    Who remembers just waiting for Indy or TB to come to town so that MAYBE we could win a game?
    Who remembers the Bills and the Dolphins DESTROYING us on a regular basis?
    Who remembers losing to the Bears in SB20?
    Does anyone remember the score of that game?
    Who remembers losing to GB in SB31?

    Well that was all before BB and Kraft!

    NOW:

    Who remembers winning SB36?
    Who remembers winning SB38?
    Who remembers winning SB39?
    Who remembers winning the AFC East for the last four years?
    Who remembers being dubbed a dynasty?

    That's all from BB and Kraft.

    It's really easy to support our team and our coach when is everything is great... but a lot of folks are showing their true colors right now. If you're a fan of the Patriots... you're a fan of BB... simple as that. You don't like BB as a man... fine by me. You don't like BB as a husband... I don't care. But you claim to be a fan of the New England Patriots and you don't like BB as our head coach...

    Well, I hear that the coaches of the Colts and the Bears are really nice guys... do us all a favor and turn in your Pats gear and go support some other team. There have been WAY TOO many bandwagon fans over the past decade anyways.

    IMHO: if you don't like the man driving the bus... THEN GET OFF THE BUS.
     
  9. Bill's Girl

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    Jealous are we??? When was the last time a head coach lead the Chargers to three Superbowl wins??? Anyone know the answer to this question?? I do, the answer is NEVER! Go back to your own board and dream with the other Charger fans of Superbowls that will never be!

    Gee, I wonder if you think Shawne Merriman is an embarassment to the NFL?

    It was a fricken video camera not an AK-47.......
     
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    Wow! Now you're making stuff up. Lying's not classy.:bricks:
     
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    Wow! Now you're making stuff up. lying's not classy.:bricks:
     
  12. Bill's Girl

    Bill's Girl Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Bravo! Thank you!
     
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    Stink actually learned all about tarnished Super Bowl rings, after the NFL found Denver guilty of cheating on the salary cap during their SB years.
     
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    i'll say it again.

    violating an NFL policy does not equal cheating. (see urlacher/vitamin water hat)

    nobody has made a good case yet that videotaping the sidelines gives the pats any competitive advantage whatsoever.

    teams have access to vid caps during the game. the coaches in the booth have access to the broadcast. there is nothing that says you can't watch the coaches with binoculars and write everything down that they do.

    the league says you can't videotape and so, it looks like we broke a rule. big effing deal. not wearing your socks correctly is breaking the rules too. doesn't mean it helps you win.

    calm down people.
     
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    I Support BB
    I Support Rodney
    I Support Our Team

    In life we need to push the envolpe and sometimes we get Burned.

    Our team is down, and needs OUR support.

    So put this behind you Boys, And Bring On the Friggin Charger's that'll Be some Real Heat.
     
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    No doubt!

    Sign stealing and taping is common you dummies
     
  17. IndyDrummer

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    So common but the patsies are the first ones dumb enought to get caught, right? :rolleyes: :rocker:
     
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    Funny.

    You dudes are screwed this year.

    I hope you enjoyed lucky a33 championship-cuz its NEVER gonna happen again.

    Peyton's a goober
     
  19. IndyDrummer

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    Just asking you a simple question dude. You say its common. I say if its so common, why has anybody else been caught? And you come back with 'that'? Asterisk...............
     
  20. RoughingthePasser

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    Its as common as sound being added to the Dolts homefield. seriously, anyone that knows professional football knows this. It IS common. Check out some of the other threads.

    I wouldn't be pissed if Indy was stealing ours. We're probably doing the same thing.

    It's all about winning and gaining advantages.
     
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