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  1. JDSal45

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    Greg Easterbrook's editor at ESPN.com is David Schoenfeld. You can reach him at (860)766-2000 extension 7172.

    On Saturday, Gregg Easterbrook wrote the following:

    "Also Saturday, Mike Fish reported on ESPN that St. Louis' walk-through was devoted to red zone plays -- all new plays and new formations the Rams had not shown during the season. Going into that Super Bowl, the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" was the league's highest-scoring team. In that game, St. Louis was held to a field goal in the first half. The Rams kept getting bogged down, as if New England knew what plays were coming. If the Patriots secretly taped the Rams' walk-through, then stopped the red zone plays the Rams showed in that walk-through, then won that Super Bowl by three points, then logic says New England materially benefited from cheating in the Super Bowl."

    He has modified it somewhat since. But the implication is still exactly the same and just as misleading.

    However, the facts of the matter are that Easterbrook wrote the Rams "bogged down" when they were in the redzone. Yet the ONLY time they were IN the redzone, they scored a touchdown. The time they were next closest to the redzone, on the 26 yard line, they scored a 26 yard touchdown.

    If the Patriots taped the Rams redzone plays, why were they one for one with a touchdown in the redzone? Easterbrook, who has already been reprimanded for his reporting on Spygate, blurs the facts even in his re-write so the reader wouldn't know. Obviously most people don't know the Rams were one for one in the redzone, so he keeps it obscure. And obviously it was pointed out to him too, thus the re-write. But in keeping with his story, he didn't REVEAL such in the interest of balance. Nope, he just kept slinging mud and confusing the reader with cryptic writing. Did they bog down in the redzone? In his initial article he says yes, faced with the facts, he switched to implying it.

    Easterbrook talks a lot about "integrity". Yet, he is showing none here. He is basically lying and twisting the facts to suit his agenda. In my opinion, since he has already been reprimanded on this very topic, this is an offense worthy of suspension. To blatantly lie about facts on a major website is appalling. At the very least, it is the worst kind of sloppiness and deserving of discipline.

    I would ask everyone who agrees to call his Editor, Mr. Schoenfeld and ask for answers on this point. Be polite. Bring up other issues if you'd like. No anger, swearing or impoliteness. Simply a call for professionalism and answers in addressing this particular columnists tendancy, proven in fact, to lie and twist on this subject. We have hard evidence and we're just asking for answers why he is allowed to get away with it and then hold himself up as a bastion of integrity.

    I called Mr. Schoenfeld myself and left a polite voice mail yesterday. So far, he has yet to get back to me. I'd ask others to do the same. This demands accountability.

    J D Sal
     
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    Please don't.

    The only result will be an editorial by Easterbrook on how NE fans are a bunch of whiners with out of context quotes from those letters that will be drolled over by the fans of 31 other teams.
     
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    I disagree. This is a REAL offense that can be proven. He has written something as fact. It supports his thesis. Except, and this is a major problem for him, its NOT TRUE.

    We have to assume Mr. Schoenfeld is a real and professional editor who takes his job seriously. I am willing to give him the benefit of that doubt and that he is a true journalist. Faced with the facts, I believe he wouldn't take it lightly. I just feel it has to be enough people to bring it to his attention he'd actually look at it.

    J D Sal
     
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    The only thing that works is to stop buying. Stop. Stop clicking on websites. Stop buying newspapers. Stop magazines. Money is the only thing that matters to them.
     
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    Truth!

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    The ESPN Ombudman blasted Easterbrook in an article over his practices with regard to Spygate and he continues publishing his garbage. Journalistic ethics have no enforcement teeth, so he caters to the large crowd of Pats haters. ESPN will not fire him because that large crowd visits the Web site and loves his material, and by reading his garbage Pats fans just add to the number of hits and decrease the likelihood of Easterbrook ever being shown the door by ESPN. I sent my hate e-mail to him about Spygate and will not read another article with his name on it.

    Do yourself a favor and read something more intellectually stimulating like a Garfield comic. Easterbrook is not worth the effort.
     
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    The ombudsman does not have the authority his editor has. Give it a try. But BE POLITE. No hate mail. Just a pointing out of the facts and ask for an explanation why he can write something counter to the facts.

    J D Sal
     
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    JD....he is right. They don;t care, they love the fact that you are ticked off. They won!! They got you to call them, they got you pissed off enough to take the time to complain.

    The ONLY thing we as fans can do is hit them where it hurts. Do not buy their magazines, do not click into their website. Do not watch their shows.

    Same thing goes for the Herald and Tomase.

    I am done with all of them.

    I wish THIS website would take down the Herald link.

    Now, that is something we can do something about.

    MODERATORS....how about it - please remove the link to the Herald at once.
     
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    Word........!
     
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    Seconded :rocker:
     
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    somewhere, sometime this POS will run into the wrong Patriot fan on the street and he'll get his
     
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    yeah I wrote letters telling them what a great job esterbrook is doing and I hope that he will be funded more so he can really dig into the dirt. I figure that if this works he will be fired for being user friendly
     
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    Gregg Easterbrook is an anti-semite POS.
     
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    Yes, please remove the Herald link and fix the Globes link
     
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    Not worth it. Don't stoop to the level of a Yankees or Eagles fan. It would only get used against Patriot fans everywhere and fuel the anti-Patriot haters.


     
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    Cancelled my "insider" subscription back during the 1st column about Belichick and spying, made damn sure the guy I had to talk to on the phone knew it too (they make it a royal pain for you to find the correct number to call to cancel, imo.)

    I wish I could take away more than my 'pages viewed'... I haven't watched ESPN since Saturday anyways, it'll probably stay that way through to baseball season. Thanks to the way Comcast has it packaged, I still get to fund ESPN anyways.
     
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    seconded
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    The e-mail was polite, but calling someone out on ethics grounds tends to be interpreted as hateful (I doubt most of these submissions are read at any level). The Ombudsman reference was more to point out there are folks within the ESPN organization who dislike his practices. It is not just the Pats fans.

    Balanced journalism is not en vogue. Every major television network does the same, and you just don't see complete portrayals of facts for any story (CNN-Democratic slant, FOX-Rebublican slant). You can see an amusing non-sports video with that theme at JibJab.com (http://www.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news).

    The fact is, any publicity, good or bad, is good for all news stations. The First Amendment protects these stations, so unless Easterbrook goes the plagiarism route (see Ron Borges for that exit strategy), you're stuck with him until he just cannot claim readers. Any publication knows the law, so unless these clowns maliciously and knowingly publish a lie, they are bulletproof.
     
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    Thirded.

    Practical effective solutions if you are upset and want to make your individual stand, and I have taken these actions this year, and I should note I classically dont ever give a ****, so for me to take action is very rare, and maybe for you?

    1) NEVER click online The Herald webpage. CHECK
    2) NEVER click online Easterbrook. CHECK.

    ( I stopped clicking on CHB last year)

    It DOES matter, if anyone upset just STOPPED CLICKING, it does add up.

    Dont Click.
     
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    Sadly, the people who hate the Patriots far outnumber Patriots fans themselves. These fans love to hear Easterbrook confirm their idiot notions about Spygate every bit as much as we despise him for it. That's the irony of Easterbrook: He bills himself as this intelligentsia but consistently appeals to the lowest common denominator.

    I don't click, but it's for my own sanity, not because I think it will make a difference.
     
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