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  1. Patters

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    The Obama campaign now has a website to fight the smears. It's really pretty amazing how even in this forum, the right-wing Republican orchestrated lies about Obama attending a Madrassa, being Muslim, about his wife using "whitey" in a speech, etc. have been spread. Let's just remember that prominent right-wingers are often liars and many of their followers are suckers.

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome

    LIE: Rush Limbaugh says a tape exists of Michelle Obama using the word “whitey” from the pulpit of Trinity United

    LIE: Blogger Larry Johnson writes “New and dramatic developments. This is a heads up. I'll post the news Monday morning by 0900 hours.”

    LIE: Proven GOP sleazemeister Roger Stone says he has “credible that some indelible record exists” of a tape of Michelle Obama using the term “whitey”

    LIE: Blogger: “Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women‚ Event.”
     
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    #75 Jersey

    New one: Obama was not born in Hawaii!!! May not even be eligible to run for President, may not even be a citizen!!!

    Obama has refused to issue his "birth certificate" and now people are questioning if he was actually bonr in Hawaii. Under the INA at the time of his birth since his father was a Kenyan MUslim terrorist, and his mother was only 18, he could not derive US citizenship at birth. This would be hilarious if it is true!!!!

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66787

    Chew on this one for a while....
     
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    Well, my bet is that another innuendo by the right will soon be shot down:

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1813663,00.html?cnn=yes

    And, yes, the campaign plans to post a .pdf of Obama's birth certificate.
     
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    Ladies And Gentlemen, The President Of The United States, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA-----------:singing:

    Jesus H Christ Lord God Almighty insanity sweeps across America.
     
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    Yeah the whitey thing I don't buy. I believe she was likely a radical in college, I mean just considering her context its likely. But seriously, if there was a tape of her saying "whitey" it would have surfaced by now. The most plausible explanation is her excitedly saying "why'd he," and it ran together.
     
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    They wouldn't release it until after the Convention, if it exists. He's not the nomimee yet, and any surprises now, could mean a Hitlery ambush, and the GOP would prefer to face Obama. Especially if they do indeed have a tape. I have my doubts.
     
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    Both campaigns are engaged in inuendo. McCain's people float this crap about Obama's nationality. Obama's campaign is suggesting that McCain is becoming senile. So what?...Get used to it. That's because the real issues will not be discussed during this election. Soc Security, healthcare, energy policy,...even Iraq will all be avoided in lieu of party politics, identity politics, and inuendo politics.

    And people wonder why we can't get decent people to enter politics. Who in their right mind would?
     
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    Preachin' to the choir, sister, preachin' to the choir...:bricks:
     
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    SISTER?
    Can it with your inuendo, identification politics.:mad:
     
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    There was no innuendo there--I stated it flatly.

    :D
     
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    By own experience is that politicians are no more dishonest than construction people, police officers, lawyers, bankers, union leaders, ministers, engineers, etc. I suppose it's always easier to make accusations against members of occupations to which you do not belong. There are many decent people in politics, but there are also many decent people who are incompetent and there are of course a few dishonest people as well.
     
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    The fact that the campaign feels it has to set up a website to address all the stuff that has been brought forward, is very telling.

    The DNC is trying just as hard to smear McCain, yet he doesn't need a website to keep them all "sorted out".
     
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    Here we go......

    Post dated brith certificates, the bane of every Immigration Officer!!!

    This form wasn't even issued until 6/7/2007 (lighted stamped on the reverse of the document!!!)


    Plus the Form on which it is printed was last revised in 2001!!!!

    Why couldn't they produce the ORIGINAL???

    Maybe because it does not exist!!! This is not going to make this go-away, it is only going to stir the pot!!!!!!
     
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    Ding, ding, ding......
     
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    Funniest post of the Month!

    :rofl::woohoo:

    Good one, Patters!

    I'll give you the "ministers" comparison, though. I'd put them right up there together with politicians and lawyers in the "MOST DISHONEST" column.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    I completely agree with most of that due to my own experience. I remember getting a job as a car salesman some 20 years ago. Here I was, a fresh college graduate in need of some income. I couldn't find anything available in my field so I took the car salesman job. It was amazing how differently I was looked at by people I already knew and how differently I was treated by people that I met once they knew what I did for work. How was I one day an ok, honest guy and the next day a guy not to be trusted? The part I disagree with you about is that professinal political spinners are paid to be dishonest. They spin with inuendo and stretch to create something negative out of nothing. All political parties are guilty of it.
     
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    So are you now accusing Obama of forgery? What exactly are you suggesting? Can you show me a link to McCain's birth certificate?

    At any rate, it appears Obama has now debunked at least four lies and innuendoes by the right:

    (1) That he was born before Hawaii was a state
    (2) That his real name is really Barry, but he changed it to Barack
    (3) That he is not an American citizen
    (4) That he had another middle name, possibly Mohammed

    Sort of makes the righties look pretty foolish, I think.
     
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    Limbaugh said he has heard rumor of such a tape but hasn't heard any tape of Michelle. Lie #1 from the pro Obama website. If he said such a thing they should have posted a sound bite with the statement.

    This guy seems to be a nutjob, he failed a polygraph about his claims and has no credibility, RW blogs have discounted his claims also.


    Stone is a sleazebag in his personal life it seems, whether a tape of MO exists spouting racist stuff is a rumor at this date, whether it is a lie remains to be seen. If I were a pubbie and wanted to use this tape, I would wait till the day of his acceptance speech.Releasing such a tape in June would be a waste from a tatical POV don't you agree Patters.

    A rumor at this time. If nothing is released by Nov, this will have turned out to be a lie.


    They are really freaked about the rumor doing a racist rant.
     

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