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    This ranks up their with issues like freedom fries, an absurd issue designed to create an enemy where one does not exist. There is not an iota of danger of sharia law in this nation, though the danger of fundamentalist Christian laws (after all the Montana Republican Party just called for making homosexuality illegal) is a danger.

    Gingrich Calls For Federal Ban On Shariah Law In US | TPMDC

    "We should have a federal law that says sharia law cannot be recognized by any court in the United States," Gingrich said to a standing ovation from the audience. The law will let judges know, Gingrich said, that "no judge will remain in office that tried to use sharia law."
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    Gingrich should be more afraid of "Family Law", as the dems probably have all of the interns he got bj's from in the parking lot of the Senate all lined up for an opportune time to discuss his "indisgretions"..

    Do not get why this guy gets so much face time for the party of family values.. maybe he is looking for a new fields to plow???? Now that he is a catholic, he no longer lusts for women outside of marriage.

    Everybody knows about him, but he keeps getting face time in big name events... do not get it. Cannot begin to conceive how this gigalo keeps getting such big face time on the stage as big time Republican events... particularly in times when they seem to be focusing on family values...

    Aren't lobbyists the question and not the answer????
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    Face Time:
    They do the same thing with Clinton.
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    But Clinton is not trying to achieve what Newt is trying to achieve... Clinton is a pig has been, Gingrich is a pig who wants to have more power than he already has..

    Gingrich left his wife who had cancer for a younger woman, he left a cadillac for a chevy.. it gets a lot nonsensical, particularly for a leader of the party of family values.. Gingrich was one of the leaders of the Crusade against Clinton is his pig activities.. all the while he is one of them probably worse...

    He is now a big time lobbyist, yes the same lobbyists that the party of the right tells us to worry about...
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    He's a souless politician, all politicians are the lowest form of life on the planet, Scum, when we vote we should try and vote for who we think is The Best Of The Rotten Lot.
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    We agree all a bunch of low life bottom feeders, who are loyal to only two things power and money..
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    We can feel the fear from coast to coast. All across the fruited plains, the left is terrified of the change that is coming to our country this November. They are hateful, spiteful, intolerant, bigoted and afraid.

    And I am thoroughly enjoying every minute of it. :rofl: :rofl:
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    They brought it all on themselves, they can't bring themselves to believe that there are other people in this country that don't agree with all of their slobbering arrogant crap.

    They "HATE" Sarah Palin they "HATE' the Tea Party they "HATE" this new women O'Donnell the stupid bastards themselves created these people, THE PEOPLE WANT CHANGE THE PEOPLE WANT THIS CONGRESS AND THIS STUPID PRESIDENT OUT.

    The American people want their country back and they are going to take it back in November.
    The democrats had it all and they couldn't handle it, America is about to have "Change We Can Believe In"-------Yes We Can.


    :rocker: "thats right harry"
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    I think a better move by our gov't would be to not recognize any country that adopts sharia (idiotic) law as the law of their land.

    I think both liberals and democrats would agree with that move.
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    Whats wrong with Sharia Law.......:singing:

    Quran 8:12 “Smite ye above their necks” … beheading with a knife,
    like the mujaheedin also do

    (Muslim fighters, the most beloved ones of Allah)

    I wonder why Gingrich doesn't like Sharia Sh!t, whats wrong with cutting heads and fingers off removing human eyes, great little movie in this link, call in the kids to watch, make your wife watch the stoning part, tell her thats what you'll do to her if she gives you any sh!t.


    Sharia Law Punishment (e.g. Quran 47:4, 8:12, 5:38, 24:2 + Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234) | newstime.co.nz
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    So what is your problem here Patters?

    Separation of church and state should also apply to religious laws.

    I have no problem with what Newt is saying here. We have laws in this country and those go for all.

    Talking points memo website ... another paranoia website ... yipee!
    Let's keep political lemmings speaking in one voice ... :rofl:
    Now what were you saying about Drudge, WorldNetDaily and RawStory ... :confused2:
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    There are 2 things here: first, no federal law is necessary, as the Constitution would prohibit it; second, there is no threat of sharia being imposed here -- it's a nonissue.
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    Even if is not imposed on us infidels it will be imposed on people in Islamic communities, which means we will have a two-tier legal system. Pity the poor ladies who don't get the benefit of such quaint ideas as "equality before the law".

    Sharia courts are already widespread in the U.K., but since you have indicated that anything across the pond (aside from France) is out-of-bounds, how about Texas?

    Texas Judiciary Online - HTML Opinion

    New Jersey? Maryland? Louisiana?

    States Take Preemptive Strike Against Shariah
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    What part of this don't you understand?

    What Gingrich is saying is still irrelevant to the examples you cite, and it is unnecessary.

    We don't need a special law saying sharia isn't the law. It already isn't. There is no two-tier legal system, nor can there be.

    Do you think we should also pass laws making it illegal for Christians to kill abortion doctors? Even though it's already illegal to kill?

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    Why has the American Left Wing Liberal fallen in love with this stuff, why do they DEFEND the believers of this Book (The Quran)

    :confused::confused:
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    Chico...I think you're missing the point that many Americans would love to see our gov't denounce sharia law in all manner, shape & form. So Gingrich's idea isn't a bad one in that it would certainly anounce to the Muslim world that America thinks sharia law is barbaric and unacceptable.

    Wouldn't you like our gov't to make such a statement to the world?

    I would LOVE it!

    And BTW (to Patters)...we should "feel the fear" regarding Muslim extremism. Personally, I'd love to wipe it off the face of the earth just because it doesn't deserve to be tolerated.
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    Can you read? If there are separate courts that make rulings based on an entirely separate legal system, then there are two tiers. In the first case I linked to above (and which you obviously did not read) there is this little gem:

    Maybe there are Islamic courts in your county or state, but I haven't run into them too often in the United States of America.
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    I really don't think we are going to need a specific law banning sharia law. Our constitution already makes it impossible for sharia law to be instituted in any manner in our country. And as for that nut wanting to ban homosexuality, our consitution prevents that as well. You fail, sir. :D I swear everyone in our country is going off into crazyland lately.
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    No, that isn't 2 tiers of courts. One is an arbitrator, not a court, and the parties are choosing to use it from what you quoted.

    That is not the same as sharia, multiple tiers of courts, etc. An arbitrator is not the law, its decisions aren't necessarily bonding, and it in no way can override the law.
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    I actually find it amusing that we're even discussing the possibility that the joke known as "sharia law" is even being discussed as a possibility in this country. Even secret sharia courts can't exist here. Our citizens wouldn't stand for it.

    Does anyone here actually give a flying fark about sharia law? I think most Americans think it's a joke.
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    You do not need more laws, the laws we have right now are sufficient.. more laws equal more government... more unneccessary debate, more polarization...

    Muslim extremism is not the only issue that this country, right now there are a lot of extremists who you should be worried about..

    The problem here begins with Newt Gingrich says... Newt is a wife swapping azzclown to the nth degree, ask any of his former wifes he left for younger women.. ask the senate interns who used to give him bj's in the Senate Parking lot, while he advocated for the impeachment of Clinton.. but for some reason the right loves to give this jackass facetime and credibility.. maybe he should worry about his marriage vows or his own legal issues, rather than worrying about what might happen.. just more idiotic right wing hysteria.. the outrageous outrage of the day.

    More government is never the answer...
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    I agree...I don't want any more laws. I just want to hear/see our gov't publically state that sharia law is a joke and is unacceptable.

    That's all...

    Kinda like this....

    "Sharia Law" :rofl:
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    Harry again shows his contempt for the Constitution -- and Muslims.
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    I could go either way on denouncing sharia. I'm not sure what the benefit would be, and I don't know how substantial the costs would be. What are your thoughts, since you'd favor doing so?

    Clearly, I think we'd be in the right, but I just don't have a strong opinion anymore on US as world policeman -- and if we aren't prepared to act, are our condemnations meaningless? Again, I think there are arguments on both sides.

    All that said, what Gingrich said goes far beyond that, and I absolutely am opposed to enacting unnecessary laws in our country as a message to others.
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    I'm also against any laws like Gingrich proposed. And I agree that the US should pull back from our idiotic role as world police.

    As far as what the costs would be...I don't see it making anything worse than it already is. I don't think educated Muslims want sharia law anyway, but they don't have any forum to express their opinions. But what I'd REALLY like to see is the entire civilized world send this message, not just the US.

    That way, America is not the only land of "Infidels". Whenever I read the word "Infidel", it makes me think we're back in time...like 2000 years! It makes me absolutely sick to read it and to think people actually believe there are only 2 kinds of people..."Believers in Allah and Infidels":rolleyes:

    Honestly, if I met a Muslim perons who believed that crap, I'd tell him

    "I am an infidel and there's not a damn thing you can do about it!" :D
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    If you ignore Patters' bigotry, intolerance and hatred, what we have is an important issue that is not as cut-and-dry as some here seem to think.

    We have freedom of religion in this country. People are allowed to practice whatever religion they would like. Well that all sounds well and good and noble and high minded, but what happens when you have a religion that says a man may smack his wife upside the head anytime he darn well feels like it? Can he practice his religion in such a manner, even if she is a willing participant in the same religion?

    Or what happens when you have a cabdriver who belongs to a religion that says he cannot transport animals in his car, even those that are trained assistant animals, so he refuses to provide services to blind people? Are citizens of the United States free to engage in that religious practice, which is essentially a form of discrimination? Because that has become a big issue with recent incidents from (I believe it was) the Detroit area.
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    Arbitration is most certainly binding.

    Texas Civil Practice & Remedies Code - Section 171.001. Arbitration Agreements Valid - Texas Attorney Resources - Texas Laws
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    Why do you feel the need to trash everyone, you do it in almost every post. Your a bright guy you don't need to do it to argue your point, unless you have some kind of basic self esteem issues and it makes you feel better.
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    The second example you bring up is an interesting one. Similar situations have come up with Christian healthcare workers wanting to choose not to take part in certain procedures, and pharmacists not wanting to fill certain prescriptions, because of their religious beliefs.

    Personally, I believe business owners generally should be able to do what they want -- but if there is licensing involved with the profession, or a limited number of licenses given out, I don't think they should be able to discriminate and be given a license. That would apply to healthcare workers as well as cabbies.

    If they don't like it, they should choose another profession.

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