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  1. Triumph

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    #87 Jersey

    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    Thats BS!

    Bush had a program called wide receiver which was in conjunction with the Mexican Gov. wear the guns were tracked. It did not work. They shut it down two years before F & F.
    F & F was restarted by the Bambi's. They knew every fn thing about it. They purposely did not track guns. 100's of Mexicans were killed along Brian Terry.

    Univision also knows it thats why he was asked how come Holder isn't out on his ass.
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    #87 Jersey

    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious


    I did ... I posted about that last month ...

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hig...fast-and-furious-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/

    Post #126
    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...es-executive-privilege-page4.html#post3099061
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    but wait.........HD says he's not a liar.....I need to drag this over there
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    this is such a bunch of BS....

    even the article saying the programs are digfferent is saying they are the same.

    Jake Tapper is a moron.
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    Fast and Furious was patterned after Wide Receiver... that cannot be denied..

    Old news....
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    According to the same dorks who deliver these unfounded lies, I'm looking at you Mr Issa, Obama and Holder did this to make americans so afraid of Mexicans that we would somehow outlaw firearms.

    The feeders of this philosophy as stated above in this very thread BELIEVE That conspiracy.

    its an amazing level of stupidity.
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    Poor old Barry the bozo misread the Classic Truman quote he thought Harry said

    "The buck stopped somewhere else".
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious


    Wow who knew Congrats. :D
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    It is funny how the right tries to indicate that the Obama campaign is in desperation mode, all the while over at the Romney Camp they rely on 1998 videos taken out of context, and misquotes..

    Interesting commentary from a man who works at Heritage Foundation, and was a speech writer for Bush II...Michael Gerson..

    Hogan Gidley, a Santorum Campaign Spokesman..

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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    I was going to give you a like on this, but after coming back and reading it again...I think not. :singing:
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    From Icy's post and legal document..

    Bush era gun running operations is the key, how does anyone know what guns were used at which time.. the whole thing was a foolish strategy by both administrations.
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    #75 Jersey

    How on earth can you celebrate this and make a snide joke just hours after a man was killed on the job? [Edit: look at the thread title above this very post from Patrodomous - - that was merged into this larger thread subsequently]

    That's disgusting.
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    Perhaps it is the way you phrase it...
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    Well one has to wonder if the guns that murdered this agent were from Fast and Furious. Note that the MSM has ignored the Univision show documenting the mayhem committed by criminals wielding the Guns Obama allowed to walk into Mexico without telling the Mexican government.
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    #75 Jersey

    The thread title you are replying to is celebratory and inappropriate.

    This is a human tragedy - - just like the tens of thousands of human tragedies each year by guns in our nation.

    No one on EITHER side should rub their hands with glee and joke about "shovel ready projects" in order to make some political point. No matter if it is against Holder or the NRA.

    It is a question of one's humanity.
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    #87 Jersey

    Sadly Shmess our current political environment is toxic to the point that partisans (D and R) celebrate this "type" of stuff.
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    I replied to the merged thread.

    The tragedy that perhaps was caused by criminally negligent behavior by the Obama administration.

    No one is rubbing their hands. They are pointing out how irresponsible the administration is and how they place innocent Americans and Mexicans at risk.

    They certainly should be judged on that.
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    Re: Obama Bin Lyin blames Bush for Fast and Furious

    Blaming someone else doesnt work this time.

    The Dems need a new excuse.
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    Perhaps, is that the standard of evidence that you employ??

    Right now you do not know much about anything, but pretty confident by the end of the day your dearly beloved blogs will have all sorts of conclusions about this..

    FYI the gunrunner operations are not the sole source of guns in Mexico, there were plenty there before and there are plenty flowing in there as we type. It could be attributable to Fast and Furious, but no one knows right now.
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    The murders are bad enough, but the silence from the liberal media is pathetic.
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    Well Univision document serial numbers of guns allowed in Mexico from Fast and Furious were involved in many murders in Mexico including 16 teenagers slaughtered at a birthday party.

    As to this latest killing we don't know yet, but certainly it is part of the mosaic with the Terry murder and the generally lax approach taken by the administration towards border security, see the curtailment of fence building for example.
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    #75 Jersey

    Your post sounds an awful lot like Mayor Bloomberg's complaint against the Commonwealth of Virginia.

    Virginia Ready to Repeal One-Handgun-Per-Month Rule - Law Blog - WSJ

    Perhaps supplying guns to ANY miscreant is not such a great idea

    But no one should ever joke about "shovel ready jobs" when connected with any human being's murder. I would condemn any left-wing poster who within hours of someone's death by shooting would write a thread title of "Here's Another Shovel Ready Job Brought To You By The Governor of Virginia". Within hours of the tragedy and not knowing anything of the circumstances, it is just opportunistic and disrespectful. Let the facts come out first before jumping to your "checkmate!!!" exclamations.
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    There was not supposed to be a fence in this remote part of Arizona..

    Stop the silliness, do you really believe that if we built a 1000 mile fence, it would make a difference???

    You folks are sick, all you want to do is a victory lap because "perhaps" a gun from fast and furious killed a border agent, have some respect for the agent and their families..

    You need to get a values check, and stop coming to conclusions that fit your agenda..
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    Romney said in an interview with the Denver Post yesterday..

    Read more: Mitt Romney would honor Obama administration's illegal immigrant work permits - The Denver Post Mitt Romney would honor Obama administration's illegal immigrant work permits - The Denver Post
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