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  1. Slagathor

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    You will excuse me if i think we support the pats more than Texas supports the Texans.
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    Dolphins better fans...no thankyou!!!!!!!!!
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    I haven't examined their ratings criteria.

    I can't figure out how if we're sold out every game, the average attendence is 62,000.

    Weird.
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    Look at the methodology. We rank 31st in 'difficulty' because we're an affluent, large market which negates all the positive (% attendance) factors.
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    Look up 'attendance' and think red seat yuppie scum
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    Hey, how about a ranking of the local sports media loyalty ?

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    I love it the Colts are 25th and the Bears are 27. I hate them both (I'm from the midwest so thats where the Bears come into play.)
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    I figured it out.

    The attendence was averaged from 1996-2005.
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    Yes, but not quite...
    A game can be 'sold out' but attendance lower as the beautiful red seat and corporate seat people stay home in inclement weather.
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    Yes, but did New England support the Pats when they were 2-14 as much as Texas supported the Texans last year...? I don't think so.

    It's a reasonably fair poll. There are tons of loyal, faithful fans in this forum but let's face it... New Englanders are notorious front runners. Sorry, fellas, but it's true. Look no further than the front page of today's Globe to see how Red Sox ticket prices have plummeted over the past 2 weeks.
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    The thing is the old Foxboro stadium only had 60,000+ seats.

    That skews the average. If we had Gillette during the enitire period you could bump the average attendence by 5% at least.
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    I agree. I have a ton of respect for the loyal fans of teams which don't have a tradition of winning (ie. Cincy, Houston etc.).

    I think that sums up the Pats ranking. I'm curious what the Patriots ranking would be from 1980-1990.
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    #75 Jersey

    Yeah, this really shouldn't surprise people who were fans in the 80s and early 90s....when we had to listed to home games on radio because not enough tickets were sold to lift the television blackout. And the team almost moved three times.
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    the Pats have the third largest market behind New York and Chicago, since Frisco/Oakland and Washington/Baltimore are split.
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    That is horribly innacurate.

    Sold out since 1993 season. Didn't win our first championship still 2001.

    That doesn't sound like bandwagon to me. There aren't very many perrenial sub-500 teams that are gonna be selling out every year.
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    You don't have to look any farther than this forum. Most days this preseason, there were 300+ people on line weekdays. Since the Red Sox got swept by the yankees, we are regularly 400+

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    #75 Jersey

    We need more Homers.

    Homerville is a very small town. It's should be a large city.
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    But how does this figure Cleveland- do they just use 1999-2005? That might skew things, too (more weight on their first couple of years back, with higher attendance).
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    Apparently you aren't aware of the fact they made the playoffs in 1994-95 and went to the Super Bowl in 1996-97. Not exactly "the worst of times". They followed that Super Bowl season with 2 playoff seasons and 2 non-playoff seasons prior to their first Super Bowl title.

    So there really hasn't been anything even remotely resembling a prolonged period of mediocrity in New England over that timespan.

    I love the Patriots, Bruins and Red Sox, and I respect loyal fans and proudly consider myself one of them. Obviously, we have some loyal fans. But, overall, New Englanders are a bunch of front runners. And I say that as someone who's lived in New England for almost pretty much my whole life. Sorry, but it's true.
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    this is a poor study... obviously, our attendance variation will be high (dee-dee-dee) we had two different size stadiums... as far as the sellouts, it looks like they used actual attendance, not paid attendance (eg. that game when the stadium was only half full due to the snow in most seats).
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    Another thing. . .it has the Steelers towards the bottom. I may not LIKE the Steelers, but they do have one of the biggest fanbases and some of the most loyal fans in the game.
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    I agree that Pittsburgh has one of the biggest followings - but the cynic in me says a lot of that has to do with them being successful (on a fairly consistent basis) since the mid-70's. In other words - it's easy to root for a winning franchise, and a lot of them have been "casual" followers since the 70's who jump out of the word-work when the Steelers make a run for the Super Bowl.

    Another thing that bothered me last season was the networks' infatuation with showing Steelers fans at away games, insinuating they are the only fans which travel. If anything coverage like that skews the perspective. Funny, I don't recall a single mention of how broad the Pittsburgh fan-base was in 2003. Oh, that's right, the Steelers were 6-10 that year.
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    Sure I can quibble with a few of the teams ahead of the Pats, but overall it's no big deal to be listed in the middle of the pack. The NFL is king and there are a lot of teams that get great support, most of them being ahead of the Pats on this list. Having lived on the west coast for almost 15yrs and watching the Pats most of the time from a barstool, I've met plenty of great and loyal fans for other teams (and much fewer Pats fans). As for transplanted Pats fans, they DON'T represent like transplanted Sox fans do (I was at the Tuesday A's/Sox game and it's huge throng of Sox fans). The Sox are a religion to those fans, while the Pats are secondary. When the Pats become a religion to those Sox fans like the Packers are to the majority of their fans or the Browns are to the majority of their fans, then the Pats will move up the list.

    Edit to add: The ratings hit the nail on the head with the Raiders, appropriately in last place. Although the Chargers could have contended for the last spot, and Arizona too. If those teams made the top half, the list would have been a total piece of trash.

    Regards,
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    Being from Dallas I can tell you that the Cowboys fan loyalty is falling the longer Jerry Jones owns the team. I can't tell you how many fans down here stopped caring about the Cowboys when Jones brought in TO. The Cowboys used to project a team image. Championships were never about one player. If Landry or even Jimmy Johnson was still here a player like TO would have never been allowed to play for the Cowboys.

    On a different note. If Cobbs makes y'alls team you will have a new fan in Dallas that used to be a Cowboys fan.
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    We like Cobbs. If he doessn't play for us he'll play for somebody in the NFL. Smart, hard working kid.

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