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    I am extremely excited about this kid and think he would really thrive as a situational pass rusher. I know he lost some weight from his jaw being wired shut. What are your expectations / what role do you think Michael Buchanan will play this year?
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    I expect him to be on the practice squad
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    He's been my dark horse for best rookie of the 2013 Pats draft class for awhile now.
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    I honestly think that he will be our best edge setter if he gains some weight. His arms are super long.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he is the starter opposite jones come playoffs. I truly think his potential is that high. He and Logan Ryan were by far my favorite picks.
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    Besides his obvious talents (tall, fast, long arms), he has a non stop motor. Players with non stop motors always catch my attention. Hopefully another late round steal like Dennard.
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    A lot of late round picks have issues, but many people tend to be overly impressed by measureables. Dennard was a guy who could play but had off field issues. Buchanan has numbers that did not translate to the field. There are exceptions, but a healthy guy who doesn't have the numbers but produces on the field is a more likely contributor. I say Beauharnais makes the roster and Buchanan goes to PS.
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    Not more? I think 1000 is the least we can expect or he's a bust.
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    I am excited about this 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE grouping. Jones, Francis (last year's
    binkie) Bequette, Buchanan, Ninko.
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    He will be a future starter for Jacksonville.
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    He makes the team if he is strong on ST. That's the likely way he makes the team. Am I wrong? It's usually how things work for these late-round picks and undrafted folks.
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    I think this is the first time since OTAs and minicamp that I've even heard his name mentioned. I share the hope that he'll develop and that there were extenuating circumstances that led to his falling in the draft, but I suspect he'll develop in a couple of years. Could be a good one, but it'll take time IMO.
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    Eh, it's a bit different being that he's a DE. In modern NFL you need a rotation of 4-6 DEs. Jones, Ninkovich, Francis, Bequette, Cunningham, Buchanan.

    He's a very intriguing prospect. He could very well leap frog Cunningham, Bequette and Francis.
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    I agree. However, Belichick usually ends up keeping one or two UDFA's or 7th rounders. Buchanan seems to be one of the best of the bunch.

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    I am too... many analysts I've heard them say that they believe we have the most talent on defense since the 2007 season, and I think they are right..

    Pass Rushers - OLB/DE Jamie Collins, OLB/DE Rob Ninkovich, DE/OLB Chandler Jones, OLB/DE Dont'a Hightower, DE/DT Justin Francis, DT/DE Tommy Kelly, DE/OLB/DT Jermaine Cunningham, DE/OLB Michael Buchanan, DE/OLB/DT Jake Bequette, DT/DE Armond Armstead could bring and turn a lot of heads this season.. All very versatile, all have the potential and talent to be a force and all are intelligent players.. Lets see how this pans out.
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    Yes, it is possible that we will have the best defense since 2007. It is also possible that we will get little out of Bequette, Francis and rookie Collins. Even Armstead in not exactly a lock to have major production. Personally, I think that we can count on Kelly. And I am higher on Cunningham than most, as a backup.

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    Lofty expectations for this guy. Am I missing something?
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    Lofty? Because some posters think he will make the team? No one even said he was going to start.
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    That many be true at many positions, but if you look historically, pass-rushing DE/OLB is a job where "measurables guys" rule -- whether or not they put up impressive stats in college. I'll take another Chandler Jones any day. :)
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    Patriots Add Another Pass Rusher With Michael Buchanan in Seventh Round | New England Patriots | NESN.com

    there were character concerns from 2010...had a down year as a senior...the Pats project him to be an edge rushing LB'er. He DOES have NFL talent so I have doubts he'd last long on the Pats 8 man practice squad...too many teams looking for players with his measurables to fill out THEIR 53 man squads.

    BB worked him out in person before the draft...perhaps he has a place for him on the 53 man roster.
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    I'm sure we'll see the same production from Buchanan as we did from Chandler Jones, about whom nobody was saying things like this:

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    National Football Post Scouting Department | National Football Post

    He's a great binkie at a position of need, but the odds are long for him seeing the field, nevermind a QB.
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    I have no expectations. He's a 7th round pick. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he makes the team, but I don't expect him to.
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    Personally I think that Buchanan has a good shot at making the team despite being picked in the last round, but that also has something to do with the need for more youth, depth, and talent on the line itself.

    I don't think it's too reasonable to have much expectation for him other than he certainly has a shot at making the roster if he shows anything at all. It's not like we're currently stacked at the position right now.
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    Of course, the player we drafted in round 7 is nowhere near as good a prospect as the player we drafted in round 1! I assumed that went without saying.

    I was just offering Jones as one of the many pass-rushing counterexamples to the claim that a player with poor measurables who produces on the field in college is a more likely contributor than the reverse. In fact, "workout warriors" have generally fared better at all points in the draft, from Clay Matthews and Jason Pierre-Paul to Cameron Wake.
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    my Expectations for Michael Buchanan are 0 I hope the kid makes the team and dose great but am not looking for much out of him
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    I hear what you are saying about production and we will not know until they put the pads on. But to me Beauharnais is the classic D1 college overachiever and has practice squad writtin all over him. I think he can be a contributor with some time to learn the pro game. Buchanon had decent numbers as a junior and has the athletism to compete at the pro level. He screwed up before his senior year and based on some of the attitude comments out there on him there is a very good chance he washes out. But if he shows up in preseason, I think it is harder to get a guy like that through to the practice squad than it would be with Beauharnais.
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    Are you saying Chandler Jones had poor measurables? I was commenting on rookie expectations . My point was that it is unreasonable to expect much from Buchanan in his rookie year merely because of his length, etc. He was not a first round pick (like Jones or Matthews) for a reason. Cameron Wake was cut and went up to Canada for a few years where he led the CFL in sacks. JPP played one year of football before coming to the NFL. I'm sure there are 7th round guys who come in and light it up, but not many. Let's give the kid some time.
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    Chandler Jones? Poor measurables? Are we talking about the same person?
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    A couple of points:

    1. patchick is absolutely correct, in that attaching a stigma to "workout warriors" is foolish when evaluating edge rushers. The moves it takes for a pass rusher to succeed in the NFL demand a lot of physical tools - length, explosion, strong and quick hands, etc. Getting a player with any of these tools, much less more than one, in the 7th is fortuitous. Lets see how he does.

    2. To dismiss Beauharnais as a "D1 overachiever" is premature. Lets see the guy play. He is an instinctive player. Most of our backup linebacker options are athletes who lack positional instincts (Fletcher, Tarpinian, etc.) so he could very well distance himself through his decision-making and game speed.

    Overall, no I do not have expectations for Michael Buchanan. But I do not expect any more or less from him than I do Jake Bequette, Jermaine Cunningham, Justin Francis, Marcus Forston, Jason Vega, etc. After Jones and Ninkovich there's a lot of spots to be filled.
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    Her point is that Chandler Jones had Tarzan-like measurables but was a lousy college player.

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