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  1. Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

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    Jessie Macbeth, a Former Army Ranger and Iraq War Veteran Tells All
    This 20 minute interview will change how you view the U.S. occupation of Iraq forever. I cannot possibly recommend this more highly. An Iraq war veteran tells of atrocities he and other fellow-soldiers committed reguarly while in Iraq. I have never seen this level of honesty from a U.S. soldier who directly participated in the slaughtering of Iraqis.
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    http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/8757944.html
     
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    bmf31c Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    How many times will people post utter crap in here without checking FACTS! :mad: It's ridiculous.
     
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    There seems to be controversy on both sides, on the right side there are stories he never served and on the extreme left there are people who think he is credible. Read somewhere this AM that his self made video has been pulled from the internet. Interesting to see how this plays out and if there are any linkages to groups on either side.
     
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    He comes from another planet. :bricks:
     
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    I can't find a link, but I'm pretty sure Jesse MacBeth has been discredited. As I recall, there were all sorts of holes in his story; his rank didn't make sense; his uniform was wrong. Most of the anti-war groups didn't play his story up because it seemed so outrageous. I think some right-wing sites were playing up his story in an effort to discredit the left, but most of the left-wing site have dropped him, if they paid any attention to him in the first place.

    Also, Iraq Veterans Against the War has disavowed MacBeth's video.

    http://www.ivaw.net/
     
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    #37 Jersey


    BTW, IVAW is run and funded by 95% non-military. And their DVD is treasonous.
     
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    Funny how the left dropped him AFTER it appeared that he was a hoax. They seemed to WANT to lap that story up as something juicy to use against Bush.


    Look how TGIAC posted this with almost sheer glee a la Mikey every time there's a casualty (but ONLY in Iraq, he doesnt seem to give 2 shlitts about military deaths anywhere else in the world)
     
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    #75 Jersey

    Looks more like Kerry's "Winter SOliders"..

    I of course immeadiatley doubted the guys authenticity, What really saddens me, is the fact that the left hates our military so, that they wish this kind of stuff to be true.


    I can only hope that Cowgirl (and John Kerry), would apologize to the military people that he offended by believing this to be true.
     
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    I hope IVAW no longer allows Macbeth to speak on thier behalf either.

    http://www.kbnet.com/calendar/calen...=5&code=&calendar=okglobal&day=17&day_view=on

    Halliburton On The Run!
    Teach In / Press event

    WED, MAY 17TH, 2006
    5:30pm-7:00pm
    Mayflower Congregational Church
    3901 NW 63rd Street
    Oklahoma City, OK 73116
    (OPEN TO THE PUBLIC)

    Guest Speakers:
    Pratap Chatterjee - CorpWatch
    Hart Viges - Iraq Veteran - IVAW
    Jesse MacBeth - Iraq Veteran - IVAW
    Alan Shackleton - Iraq Veteran - IVAW

    Maureen Haver - Houston Global Awareness
    Jeri Reed - VFP - Mother of Iraq Veteran
    Robert Guimaraes Vasquez - AIDESEP, Peru
    Michael Karikpo - FRIENDS OF THE EARTH, Nigeria
     
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    Oh the tangled web we weave. You would think an organization of such substance:rolleyes: would have done a little background checking.

    But, NO, his "story" fits their agenda. No sense in spreading truth.

    Pig F*cker.
     
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    They're a veterans organization. Give them a break. Every group attracts its share of losers, but at least the IVAW disavowed him on their home page.
     
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    A group that has a member that speaks for them publishes a video filled with accusations of war crimes, deserves no break. There are plenty of legitimate groups that are pushing the same agenda but they are doing it legitimately.

    To me, the politics of it have no bearing. The guy and his associates are trash.
     
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    Did you read what they put on their home page?

    "Iraq Veterans Against the War recently learned of a video interview with Jesse MacBeth that directs viewers to IVAW’s website and phone number. IVAW was not made aware of the creation of this video program and our input on it was never sought by its producers. Jesse MacBeth is not a spokesperson for IVAW and any claims made by MacBeth about his service have not been verified. We are currently investigating these claims and will have a full statement pending its resolution."

    Look, some people fall for the lies of Bush; some people fall for the lies of Congress; some people fall for the lies of Jesse MacBeth, but at least IVAW has distanced itself from the guy. (I know nothing else about IVAW, but looking at who will perform at its benefit concert lineup, it appears to be a legitimate group, whether you agree with them or not.)
     
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    I read it, and it seems they want people to believe he is not a member of their organization, but alas he is. I'm not so much ranting on the organization as I am at him. If they want to come through as legitimate, they will issue a strong statement about how he duped them.
     
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    I'm sure they will, but first they have to investigate. Let's face it, you assume he's wrong, but do you have any evidence? It's at least theoretically possible that he was a rogue soldier in a rogue unit. Every war has examples of crimes committed by the good guys as well as the bad guys, and every organization moves with caution against its members, whether its the Republicans moving against Tom Delay, the Democrats against William Jefferson, or this organization against this soldier.
     
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    Well I guess I will lower myself again (michael) and call Terry Glenn is a Cowgirl a moron. Your ignorance and stupidity shines brighter with each additional post!

    And he calls us cattle! "But it is on the internet, it must be true"
     
  18. bmf31c

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    Yes, he never served in Special Ops. That's a fact.


    He's a liar.
     
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    #37 Jersey

    Patters would fit right in with them , because most of the IVAW are people who have never served in the millitary, think they are evil, believe others before soldiers, would never know what it is like to be in a combat situation and still calls MacBeth a soldier.
     
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    As a secondary note, I am double and triple checking but guess what...it looks like he was never in the military period.
     
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