Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by HughesMiester, Dec 21, 2007.
From Insider analyst Jeremy Green:
Green's been beating this drum for weeks. He's an idiot. Jax may be the Patriots EASIEST opponent. I can't believe ESPN hires these fools and tools.
I for one welcome all this kind of stuff--I want as much national buzz as possible about other teams, and how they'll beat the Pats. I think we've all seen how that tends to work out.
I think the Jags are good too; but a reason that they're going to beat us is Garrard??? Come on! Belichick would show him schemes he's never seen before.
Bring it on, JAgs. I guess this guy missed the two games at the end of 2005 (wasn't Garrard the QB in one of those? and they went back to Leftwich because they thought they had a better shot with him on a bad ankle?) where we wiped the field with Jax. I'm not saying they will be an easy opponent, but to suggest they are hungrier or more P.O.'d than the Pats is ludicrous.
I agree. I think this is great. Look how well this worked out for the Steelers
We played them last year in Jax, with Garrard. They were playing for a playoff spot. And we soundly beat them. They beat a struggling Steelers team and all of the sudden they're worldbeaters. It's completely ridiculous.
Pats need to really watch out for the clever schemes the Jags put together, and the way JDR puts his teams in position to win the big games, like against Indy...... yea.
Oh, not to mention the recent BIG wins over Carolina, Buffalo, and Tennessee recently. if they can hold those offenses in check, God only knows what sort of havoc they could create against the struggling Patriots.
If they are so good, why do they have 4 losses? And why aren't the 3 teams that BEAT Jacksonville (IND, TEN, Saints) a bigger threat to NE?
Silly questions, I know.
They are the flavor of the month. All we do is put Harrison in the box and have Garrard and his receivers try to beat us in January in Foxboro.
How many teams, week after week, have the stars alligned perfectly to beat the Patriots? This stuff is getting old and rediculous. I do hope we play the Jags. This article will look great on the Pat's bulletinboard.
They lost to the Colts twice, and the games weren't particularly close. They were outcoached by a worse team in the Titans, and the Saints beat them with Quinn Gray at the helm.
Frankly, Del Rio doesn't scare me at all as a coach. They needed a last minute drive to beat a beat-up Steelers squad despite dominating them all game... if they were a legitimate threat to the Patriots, they'd have beaten the Colts. They got their two shots at them.
The Patriots beat the same Jaguars team soundly last year when the Jags were playing for the playoffs, and a similar Jaguars team two years ago very soundly in the playoffs. They don't scare me.
What is it with the Jag(off)s..
Every year you hear about how they are going to knock off the colts, and then, inevitably, they get trounced. Twice.
If I had a dollar for every time there has been a prediction about how a team with a bruising running game and a great D is going to beat the Pats, I would be a rich man. This goes all the way back to Carolina in the second SB.
Jax has a lousy secondary and lousy receivers, to boot.
So what the guy goes on about the Jags 5 ranked run defense but nothing about their 25 ranked pass defense.
New week... new team... same TIRED azz story.
The fact of the matter is... the Patriots, at their core, are still the most versatile team in the league. They have been that way for about 7 years now. They can adjust to play any style of football better than any team (possibly) in the history of the league.
You want to play smash mouth?? They can grind it out. You want a shoot-out?? No problem. Bad weather?? Check the record... Blitz the house?? They dink and dunk you all day long. You think you can run?? Only if they let you by design (because your QB isnâ€™t good enough to beat them through the air).
When are these idiots going to wake up? The Patriots have no particular style of play. They are hybrids, who change things up at the drop of a dime.
I might find the argument more convincing if the Jags had been able to beat the Colts just once this season. Truth is that they got manhandled both games, and the second loss caught them when they were even playing good ball. They can't beat teams who have the capacity to pour on points quickly. Jags need to be ahead and control things. They couldnt' get it done against Indy--they weren't even CLOSE to getting it done against them twice this season.
Personally... I thought the Jags got robbed in the Second Indy game. But that is here nor there. A loss is a loss.
Logic has no place here.
There were some iffy calls in that game, but none were brutal and there were some bad calls all around. But the Colts were their most banged up and that point, and the Jags still couldn't beat them.
But the Jags are good, no doubt. They aren't considerably different than the team we rolled over in the playoffs last year, and considering we have improved tremendously, I don't see them as any bigger a threat than the other teams. It's going to be a tough game no matter who we play, it's the playoffs. But for some talking head to come out and guarantee a victory against us...just laughable.
That's a reason the JAGs will win? It'll be a playoff game, and I'm pretty sure BOTH teams will be motivated.
Maybe Fred Taylor should have made the ProBowl, but how does that make the Jags beat the Pats. Wes Welker should have made the Pro Bowl. So what?
Earth to Jeremy Green: There will be no sloppy field. Gillette has field turf.
????? I won't even try to understand this one.
Garrard is a good player, but Brady is better:
Garrard: 16 TDs to 2 INTs
Brady: 46 TDs to 6 INTs
Garrard: 64.2 % completion
Brady: 69.2 % completion
Garrard: 101.6 passer tating
Brady: 119.2passer rating
Garrard: 4 passes over 40 yards
Brady: 13 passes over 40 yards
Yeah, I agree.
No, Pittsburgh is. San Diego may even be the most dangerous team in the playoffs. Its the 2nd season. Everyone is 0-0.
Yes, one Sunday of bad weather means the offense will from now on be shut down and the team will be one and done in the playoffs.
Its cheap publicity say whatever you noboby's going to call you out afterward when your wrong and if they do you shrug your shoulders and say No kidding the Pats won their the best. Chris Carter said the same thing about the Steelers a month ago. Just laugh at them and realize thatthese naysayers are part of ride.
From Insider anaylst Jeremy Green:
"First, let's start with a little motivation......"
From SI's Peter King on why the Steelers would beat the Pats 2 weeks ago:
"4. Hines Ward's will to win. The dude leads the league in it."
Was this written by an eighth grader?
What a flippin tool!
Jacksonville has to win a game before they come to Foxboro.
I respect the Jags and other than the Pats they are one of the few times I like. But they will not beat the Patriots. If the Patriots did not exist the Jags could make it to the Superbowl, but we do and therefore they won't.
Here's what is going on behind the scenes at the ESPN studios:
The Patriots have played and beat the Jags 3 times over the last 5 years. In none of those game did the Jags system, scheme, talent, coaching etc ever threaten the Patriots.
The closest game the Jags played was last year, and if anyone remembers the only reason that game was even close (played in Jax) was that fluke of a run by Jones Drew where he went for like 70 yards on a running play where the Patriots tackled him he landed on somebody, and kept on running for a TD. Give credit to Jones-Drew, but that was a total fluke of a play.
Also the Jags have never out physicilled the Patriots. In fact I would say the opposite is true.
I would be more concearned playing the Broncos who have matched up well with the Patriots over the years than this years flavor of the Jags. I am not saying the Jags are not a good team, but we are talking about a historically good team with the Patriots who have never had a problem with the Jags.
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