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    I guess I'm happy about that. I don't mind change but this team needs to do too much in the personnel dept. Having experienced, quality people like Reese can only be a good thing.
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    Maybee that will put Floyd Reese as player personel director , and move Caserio to OC... I doubt it but who knows..
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    I'd like to keep Reese around in some capacity. I'm all for continuity in the personel dept right now. We had Scott for so long that I'm sure it was a tough transition last year. Would definitely rather not have any changes there again this year.
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    Does Reese poking that job with a stick cause any weirdness for him and the Pats this season?
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    I don't think so as long as he was above-board w/ BB on it. Pioli had conversations w/ SEA and the Giants a few years back and chose not to move on and by all accounts, they still maintained a solid professional relationship..
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    I'd love to keep Reese, either in his current capacity or more involved with personnel selection. He had a fairly good track record at Tennessee. If Caserio moves to OC then I could see Reese taking on an expanded role, or bringing in someone like George Kokinis or Phil Savage and keeping Reese in his current role.
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    I think Reese is a good talent evaluator and I'm glad he's still here. He's probably also the only person at Patriot Place who can call the coach "Billy."

    He had some great drafts with Tenn.--his only big mistake was Pacman, and I believe that utimately lead to his dismissal.
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    The Patriots need Reese if they have intentions to re-sign any of their

    free agents between now and March 5th. He is their chief negotiator.
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    Unless a personnel guy repeatedly takes below board characters like Pacman, you can't blame him for figuring a guy will reform himself when he has so much at stake.
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    Kokinis really pushed back on Mangini, didn't he... He got snookered out of the gate, curled up in the fetal position, and got blamed for all Eric's mistakes in Cleveland... Savage hung on by a thread in Cleveland for most of his time here only because RAC lacked the sack to be a HC or take control when it was offered. Floyd...is here for a reason...as was Dom Capers...rehab. Floyd had a multitude of problems in Tennessee and lost the power struggle with Fisher after they both got emasculated by their meddlesome owner.
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    But both Kokinis and Savage were solid personnel men in Baltimore under Ozzie Newsome. If Caserio moves back to coaching, then bringing either one in to partner with Reese would not be a bad idea.

    Who cares if Reese and Capers got emasculated in the past? That's happened to more than one good personnel guy/coach. And while Reese made a few mistakes (Pacman), he hit a bunch of home runs. Michael Roose at #41 in 2005 more than made up for the Pacman debacle. Reese found a franchise LT in the weakest draft of the decade. Plus a solid RT in Stewart in the same draft. I'll take that kind of performance any day.
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    The rumor was Reese lost a political struggle with Fischer. Pacman and Young may have given Fischer the ammunition.

    I hope Reese stays on and continues to get more involved. He has had great success as a GM and the rest of the Pats staff have so little experience that I wonder if they disagree with BB very often. Reese based on his experience and track record strikes me as the sort of person whose opinions BB would respect even if they weren't perfectly in line with his thinking.
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    All of a sudden the popular new mantra is, "BB needs people around him not afraid to disagree." Can anyone give the man credit for soliciting input? My understanding is that BB highly values what his staff members bring to the table, to the point of actively seeking their opinions and feedback. Criminy.
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    Would not be surprised in the least if Caserio is being groomed as the heir-apparent to BB. He getting plugged in everywhere. Quality-control, coaching, scouting, front-office...all he needs is coordinator-level experience and hes a decent-enough candidate to be mentioned in the conversation of BB successors.
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    Move Casserio to OC and he will be a HC somewhere else in a couple of years.


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    Not saying that BB doesn't solicit input, but I wonder how open the rest of the relatively young/inexperienced FO/coaching staff is in voicing dissenting opinion.

    Per Reiss:
    I wonder if the rest of the staff feels secure enough to forcefully disagree with BB not whether BB solicits outside opinions, if they have reached the same point with BB as BB did with Parcells.
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    Perhaps. Keep in mind BB is pushing 60. Can't do this forever- although I wish he could!
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    This is true. He and Eric the former ball boy used to have screaming matches that could be heard the length of the building and then carry on like it was nothing but two passionate defensive nerds hashing out divergent opinions. And that was in 2003 while RAC was still here and Eric was just a position coach. Every offseason he picks the brains of his protogees inside and outside the team for evaluations and assessments as well as new ideas and trend assessments as part of his personal off season improvement program. He welcomes input from his employees provided they can back it up or defend it to his satisfaction. He doesn't suffer the kind of critical fools that blather in the media and on message boards because they can't.

    When he was evaluating his team after the 2002 season his DC and DB's coach were all ready to gloss over Milloy's performance because he was after all a playmaker. Bill challenged them to show him one significant play he had made all season. Turned out they couldn't, and the rest is history... That's why he made the move on Rodney and why when he wouldn't ultimately take a pay cut he cut Milloy.

    If you ever listen to Felger when he rips the team over spending, just understand he's had their core philosophy explained to him too many times to count, by BB back in the day and by Jonathan of late, and he just doesn't want to accept or acknowledge that because demanding they just throw money at their perceived problems and quit hiding behind some obvious salary cap or revenue concerns nonsense plays better to his audience. And when they do spend periodically, which is what their business plan is predicated on, he tries to make the case that that somehow proves he is right and they should just spend like drunken sailors every off season...

    I can't even imagine what it's like for these highly accomplished pros to have to read and listen to some of this moronic drivel spewed by their half whacked critics...let alone be expected to engage them in discussion...
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