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    Great. Now every time Flacco heaves one to Smith, I'm going to wait for the other shoe to drop and see a flag on the play. Interesting choice of officials here.

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    Remember they are "all star" crews. We don't know who from Levy's regular season crew is with him today.
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    The refs cost us the week 3 game. Jones/Love sacked Flacco and they had a questionable holding call on Spikes at the same time. It was highly questionable and wrong in my opinion. On the NEXT play Flacco throws a TD to Smith. Refs DO have an impact they should throw flags if there are penalties but not questionable ones. The one in week three was utter B/S.

    I'll argue that with any Pat or Ravens fan. Bring it!

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    No question the refs cost us that game. If you remember we were up 13-0 and Mayo got called for holding on an incomplete pass to keep a Ravens drive going, a call I've yet to see from an angle where I see a penalty. So instead of being up 13-0 with the ball Baltimore ends up scoring, changed the whole game. Not to mention the absolutely atrocious call on McCourty on 2nd and 15 late.
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    The best news I've heard is that the wind will be a factor, which should hopefully cut down on Flacco's PI-inducing moonballs.
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    Beat me to it. The only place we can be sure this will make a difference is on Offensive Holding Calls (also impacted by the Umpire) and any call related to protecting the QB. As far as PI goes, we don't know the profile of the Field, Side and Back judges.

    Personally, I think this "All Star Officials in the Playoffs" system sucks. I'd rather have Team of officials who average out to a "B+" but have been together for the entire season than a bunch of "A" officials who have never worked together.
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    if anyone cares at this point, Jerome Boger will be the Super Bowl referee.
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    Breaking Down the Officiating in New England Patriots Loss to Baltimore Ravens | Bleacher Report here's a ton of wrong calls.
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    So basically, I should expect to see Ravens OL Holding our pass rushers, and then Pass Interference called on our DBs. Kind of like the first time we played the Ravens.
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    According to the weather service, the winds will be strong in the afternoon but diminishing by game time. Still, you are basically right; it will definitely be windier than last week in Denver and the "wind tunnel" effect of the open end of the stadium should work against Joe. I hope the Pats win the Toss since I'd feel better if he is throwing into the wind in the 4th Q.
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    What are we Jets fans? Complaining about the refs especially before the game has even been played is for losers.

    if the Pats can't win because the refs, they have no business being in this game.
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    EXACTLY! Ridiculous to proactively complain about the officiating.
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    All star ref is a bit of a funny label. It's like being the arm wrestling champ of the chess team...

    Then again, at least these guys are better than the guys who got fired from the Lingerie Football League we had earlier in the year.

    Still, this combination of calls concerns me. Fewer calls but lots of pass-related calls could mean lots of no hold calls on the DL + weak PI calls in the secondary. Baltimore could take better advantage of this because of their deep passing attack getting a few big PI calls.
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    I'm sick of listening to how the ravens beat the pats in game three. The reffs Gave that game to the ravens, their officiating was gruesome. If not for these bottom of the barrel reffs the pats would have won by 10-14 points.
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    That crew last week didn't exactly impress me, they looked like those imposters masquerading as reffs back at the beginning of the season.
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    Yours is the best response in the thread. If you're going to allow the offensive line to hold, you counter that by allowing more contact in the secondary.

    But holding + calls against the secondary = huge advantage for a long throwing offense.

    The thing is, the Patriots can take advantage of this as well by throwing long to Lloyd on play action.
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    Didn't the Patriots have Leavy earlier in the season and got a few PI calls with a deep ball game plan?
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    High scoring is good.
    Lots of PI is bad. Especially since Flacco likes to chuck it deep looking for the laundry.
    Not much holding called, so will the Ravens OL hold Chandler Jones all day long? LOL
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    Report: Leavy to ref on Sunday - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

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    If we get screwed it probably won't be with an obvious PI call. It will probably be when our defense has them pinned back on 3rd and 10 with 2 minutes to go, up by 1-2 points, we get the stop, and then a yellow flag will fly on the field..."Holding, 5 yard penalty, automatic first down".

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    I really don't care about the refs with one exception-Ed Hochuli. as long as he isn't involved it's all good, when he is I know the Patriots are going to get screwed. His replay calls are especially convoluted and alwqays end up going against the Patriots. He really thinks he is the star of the game and goes way out of his way to make himself a part of the outcome, which is the worst thing a ref can do imo.
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    I was thinking this too. However, if he tosses one up there and the DB has good coverage, but the wr has to come back for it, you will see 7 yellow flags on the db for impeding his progress to get back to the ball...watch.
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    no, thats a ridiculous statement, we are not a varsity team playing a JV team, this isnt pop warner where levels can be different b/c of ages, this isnt a pro team vs a college team

    these two teams are "supposed" to be on the same level, if the officials are obviously going for one team, then the chances of that team winning skyrocket, this is the AFC champ game, both teams must be pretty damn good if they got here, so if the officials favor one, that is enough to tip the scales, where instead the play on the field should tip the scales
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    Ed is one, i think another i dont like is Carry? or Carrey?

    then theres a couple more guys id rather not see
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    Yeah Carey reffed SB 42 and didn't call Eli in the grasp or throw a flag for one of the 97 holds on that play.
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    If we execute and get up on them early...... the refs wont be able to influence the game.
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