Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Patsmaniac, Mar 27, 2008.
Pretty good read
I have been saying for much of the last few seasons that the OL owes Brady a big thank you for a portion of the praise it gets. Those stats show our OL at about 11th in the league in pass protection and that seems about right to me. It's an above average group, but Brady makes it one of the best in the league with his ability to withstand pressure and move around in the pocket.
Which is why I wouldn't mind adding Clady or Williams in the draft. Or any of the number of guards in the mid rounds who are projected as good, athletic blockers who could do well in zone blocking schemes, Thomas, McGlynn, Rinehart, Cousins. Schatz makes a decent point that Brady's safety comes into play. We throw the ball so much, it has to be a big priority to keep Tom upright.
fu-k espn and their magazine . i hate espn
Me too I refuse to read the thing because its from ESPN. Fvck them!
(in terms of popularity, not inception)
10 years ago, ESPN was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
20 years ago, MTV was.
30 years ago, CNN.
The thing that I think a lot of people here miss when they talk about the difference between a right tackle and a left tackle is that the current Patriots offense doesn't really differentiate them as most standard teams do. When you are lining up 5 wide, or 4 wide with someone in the backfield, having road grader at right tackle doesn't mean much. If New England is going to be the Brady-to-Moss show with Guest Star Wes Welker for the next 3 years, putting a 'left tackle' on the right side isn't a bad idea at all. That's why I've been on the "Take an LT if he's worth a top 10 pick" bandwagon from the beginning.
CNN didn't exist 30 years ago.
1980, close enough.
That's a very good point and one I hadn't thought of, and I am on the take an LT bandwagon (although I'm also on the pass rushing beast bandwagon...I'm on a few draft bandwagons right now).
On a related note, count me among those who wouldn't mind seeing the Patriots go with a more conventional and conservative approach at times. I suspect we might see a little more balance next year. But even if we do, this is a pass first team, and a team that needs to protect Brady, and drafting a Clady or Williams - or any highly rated tackle who is great at pass protection - and putting them at RT is something I'd personally welcome.
its the same BS about the pats dont run enough and throw the ball. Just different article arriving at the same conclusion. We have had very similar o lines throught brady's career. And this genius didnt write this when the pats went 18-0 but after the SB discoverd that QB hits are important too.Not to mention the heading of the article which is another typical ESPN thing.
We should have ran the ball a bit more. I think we'll see less of Brady picking himself up of the turf next season.
It's totally not BS - the Pats are so committed to the passing game it made it easy for the Giants to come after Brady. It's not like Maroney was going to break off a 20-yard gain on them.
comes back to the same argument. Pats have always game planned every game as needed. So when its needed to throw 35 times they did and when they needed to run 25 times they did. like the steelers game and the chargers game.
When it doesnt work , people can say a lot of obvious things like we shouldve run the ball more.i agree , we couldve .But we were the highest scoring offense in history built on our QB and WR's . We just didnt game plan our passing game well. there was no adjustment like rolling brady out to the left or right until the last drive when moss couldnt hang on to the throw. nor was there any creativity in using moss inside until the fourth quarter.
if the tyree catch is intercepted instead, no one would complain the pats throw too much.
I honestly don't have a problem with them throwing the ball every single play. What I do have a problem with is doing it from the shotgun every single time and making it completely obvious that they are going to pass. This makes it easy for the defense to just tee off everytime. Honestly, I can't remember a Pats game in the past 2 years with McDaniels at the helm where I didn't have a very good idea of what play was coming up based on the formation and situation.
For what its worth department: though the article may have appeared on ESPN's website, it was written by Aaron Schatz, a longtime Patriots fan and founder of FootballOutsiders.com.
i dont care who he is . if he works for espn .i wont read it watch it or purchase a product from a espn sponsor .
Yeah, okay. Good luck with that.
The point was that the only thing 'ESPN' about the article is the header on top. Any other day, it would have run on Football Outsiders.
owww, so Brady is third for last season, and he broke all those records....dam, another bit of light to those arguing brady is NOT the best QB right now, or ever
when the header says football outsider then ill read it. enjoy your daily dose of bull**** from espn.
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