Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by pats1, Jul 7, 2008.
No suprise here. Brady just came off a record setting season. If this poll were done after 2004, even though we won the Super Bowl, Manning would get all of those votes. Record setting seasons have been known to skew poll results.
I bet a few years ago when Manning broke that record, Manning would have been a landslide pick too.
I dont read anything ESPN or any New York/Boston media has to say. There are a few exceptions. But these writers are so full of themselves its ridiculous.
I suppose if Manning were to break the TD record again this season they would dub him the King of Kings next or some BS.
Eerie how similar our posts were even just a few seconds apart.
It would be interesting to figure out who the six coaches were. My guess would be all the south coaches (Dungy, Del Rio, Kubiak and Fisher) as well as Shakenbake and Coughlin (he thought he was voting for Eli ).
This was a poll among head coaches, not ESPN writers...
I bet these same NFL coaches wouldve said the same thing for the past 5 years.
Dont fool yourself. Coaches can be influenced too.
Until Peyton won the Super Bowl last year, I bet most coaches would have taken Brady. Peyton was known to wilt under the pressure.
if you took this poll last summer, I'd agree with you that Peyton would have been the man. Before that, I'm not so certain.
There was a poll done during last year's training camp, ask the players coaches and league personnels bunch questions, one of them is which QB other then their own would they choose. Tom brady got 65%, and Manning got 35%, that was after the year manning won the superbowl. I think those people know whose better, doesn't matter if brady own those record or not.
Felger used to talk about this a lot on his radio show. His choice was always Carson Palmer because of the age difference and presumed upside...
Thing about Tommy is he also saves you $$$ you can use to upgrade elsewhere... And you can spend that $$$ savings on defense if so inclined and he'll still get you deep into the playoffs with whatever offensive weapons you were able to hobble together...
My choice for the 6 moron coaches:
Mike Tomlin (these 2 are Dungy disciples)
Jack Del Rio
(though I am not sold on the 2 AFC south coaches - just a hunch)
Brady is the better QB because in his career he has continually done more with less and he doesn't play 80%+ of his games in domes and great weather. There is no doubt in my mind Brady is the best, possibly ever.
I am glad that Brady got the nod, but I find these polls useless. I am more interested in who are the two coaches who didn't vote. We all know Belichick is one of them since he wouldn't give ESPN the time of day, but who is the other one. I am betting it is Wade Phillips. I am betting he wanted to tell TO that he would have voted for him him but didn't get back to ESPN in time rather than looking like an idiot and actually voting for TO.
I disagree with a lot of the comments in here. MOST coaches IMO would have voted for Brady and his 3 rings in 2005. There are NO DOUBT some coaches who have never won, who won't attach greatness to winning, but most of them don't last.
The 6, IMO, are Dungy (and i cant blame him) and 5 other guys who never win and think its not their fault, its the hand they were dealt. I'd guess Herman Edwards is one, Marvin Lewis may be another, Norv Turner definitely, Del Rio may be one as well, Andy Reid likely.
Whenever I see one of these things, I still flash back for a second or two to the fact that the guy was a sixth round pick. All time best making the most of what you have, if not all time best QB. I think I'd still take Montana, but another ring for Brady might change that.
Yea, I got money that says Bill did not do the survey.
I can hear him now, "ESPN wants me to do a survey for an Article they are writting..............uh no."
Ok, where are the Indy fans now?
Trying to figure a way to discredit 22 NFL Head Coaches. Probably got their handy dandy NFL Stat book out...the one with the page missing labeled "Most Super Bowls won by a QB".
I've got to ask...
what a bunch of frickin morons.
Anyone who votes for Manning is either an Indianapolis coach, or the coach of a team who constantly get their asses kicked by Indy and they do this to feel better.
No football coach should EVER pick Manning over Brady.
This pretty much confirms why i hate just about everyone.
Why do I feel like Belichick voted for Jason Taylor?
I was just thinking the same thing.
All the sudden, there are 22 'genius' coaches in the NFL, and 6 dolts?
Shanahan. I picked it up from a friend who is a Raider fan who hates the Broncos more than I do (which is saying a lot) He got it because of the tan he has no matter the month (kinda like a cooked shakenbake chicken).
However, when Manning got his record, there was no Brady in the picture, statistically speaking. But now that Brady broke the record, its much more signifcant because Manning was only 1 TD behind Brady's mark-to-be and had a greater QB rating, and it all happened just a few short years ago. So I think this is significant.
I'd bet that BB never votes in these things.
Anyone who thinks Brady is disrespected is crazy.
Spoken like a true Colts fan.
I don't think anyone is saying that, I'm not.
However, lets say you want to know who the best player in the league is, who would you ask? Peter King? Fans? Please.
You would ask the Coaches. They did and that's what they got. Kind of hard to argue that, however I would love to hear your rational for debunking this black and white survey.
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