Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Jangles, Dec 27, 2011.
Brady is getting hosed, but I can't believe the results.
I'm amazed that Rodgers is winning Michigan, Illinois, and Minnesota. If that poll were Mark Sanchez vs my grandmother my grandmother would win New England.
It'd be the exact same if a QB like Manning were in there against Brees and Rodgers.
While I agree that Brady is having a great yr, he is a clear-cut 3rd best.
At least they included him against the other 2, to me that's showing a lot.
You've have to be lying if you claimed that Brady had an MVP shot this yr against those other 2.
It's 46% rodgers and 46% brees. In a 3-way race Brady has fewer TDs than Rodgers and fewer passing yards than Brees. So I'm not surprised. I'll take a superbowl win over winning a poll any day.
What I'm saying is before I saw the results, I would have guessed like 15% Brady, 18% Brees, then Rodgers.
Or something like that
The only guy who doesn't have an argument is Brees. He has the best receivers, best running game and best defense out of those three QBs, apart from throwing the football a lot more and having played 11 games in a dome.
If and when Breese and Rogers show their as good as Tom Brady, fans will get sick of them too! But Aaron and Drew have a long way to go before they prove themselves to be the same calibre as Brady & Peyton Manning.
lets hope its gonna be one of those years where the MVP guy doesn't win the Superbowl and our guy does
To be honest, I would have expected it pretty close between Brees and Rodgers, especially after last night etc.
It sucks that Brady gets no love here, but he's about where I would personally expect. I'd have thought about 48 Rodgers, 42 Brees, and 10 Brady--or something close to that.
AR deserves it, in my opinion. If Brady had his numbers and the Pats were 14-1, I'd expect him to have the 46%. You also have to take into account in the national "Patriots Hatred Factor", which is always an element. I think it has lessened to some degree from what it was in 2007, but it's still out there when you get outside of NE, actually, MA, RI, ME and NH. VT and CT might as well be parts of NY.
I wouldnt say clear cut at all. If you have the ability to not be a prisoner of the moment, and look at where you are playing (dome vs out doors) who you are playing with, and who you play against you'd see Brady is just about number 1.
Take in the fact that regardless of what we are told, the MVP is a team award. If Brady had even and average D, the pats would be 15-0 in all likelyhood and Rodgers and Brees would be afterthoughts, even if Brady had the exact same stats as he has at 12-3
vermont and connecticut should secede from new england.
not like connecticut is a real new england state anyway.
This isn't really a surprise. Brady's relatively poor run after in midseason doomed him. Records don't matter. Stats don't matter. What matters is the mindset that takes hold. Brady's having an "off year", whether he is having an off year or not.
Who's talking about Brady having an 'off' year? I haven't heard anybody say that. It's not his best season, it might not even be in the top 3, but he's playing better than Manning did in 3 of his MVP years, for example.
When he was tossing his INTs (Buf through NYG), it was being noted. I'm not even saying it was being fairly noted, because expecting Brady to repeat his INT performance from last year was unreasonable (Heck, if he goes without throwing a pick next week, this will be the second fewest in a full season for him). My point is that the notion got burned into the collective psyche. When you combine that with him winning the award last year and people wanting someone new to win, it's not surprising to me that Brady's way back in the pack.
the clear cut Most Valueable Player (MVP) is Peyton Manning. Without him in the line-up the colts have only won 2 games. He is missed for sure and the moxt valueable
Hey! There are plenty of Pats fans here in CT. Just a weird mix. The closer to NYC you get, the more Giants/Jets fans.
Brady must be steaming mad about this MVP race
i much rather see brady get a super bowl mvp award
If you want to win an MVP you need to pad your stats. Thats the way to win. Which is kinda sad.
Agreed. I haven't heard much, if any, of that stuff. I think the consensus both nationally and locally is that he's having a terrific year. It just seems that it's AR's year and having the poll the day after Brees' performance last night would lead to the type of poll numbers which are there. I don't care, it's not like Brady's being robbed, or anything, and I'm much more focused on the play-offs and how the team will do.
Well either the general fans are getting smarter, because in all honesty those guys do deserve it, or it's just another example of ESPN's influence. Though I gotta say, they haven't shown much of Rodgers lately and fans haven't lost sight of him.
Personally I feel that while Brees's records are impressive, and he's a pretty cool dude to top it off, as far as individual performance and contribution to the team, Rodgers is basically the equivalent of Brady in 2007, if not more so. People are getting too swayed by the yards record, but Brees has a lot more weapons on that offense, while Rodgers has been phenomenal overall this year.
Take a moment of quiet reflection and be thankful for these news stories/debates and under-saturation of the importance of Tim Tebow to the world these past weeks.
Who cares? Let's just focus on winning this week!
Quite surprised by the voting actually. I thought it would be 70-80 % rodgers than the rest brees/brady.
Rodgers is indeed having a 2007 bradyesque year (45-6 TD), and he could easily end up with 48-49 tds if he plays next game
Rodgers deserves the mvp.I could care less.Brady just needs to play like an mvp in 2 playoff games.He needs to step it up along with the team in the playoffs.MVP is just a hardware.Do ur thing in the playoffs.
amen, just because he has been great doesn't mean he has been the best. This year he definitely wasn't. We shouldn't take it as insult when people across the country all do vote for the guy who does deserve it.
Tom Brady shouldn't even be winning Massachusetts.
After all, we all considered Michael Vick to be a clear (yet very distant) 2nd place person in the MVP race. When he didn't even get a single vote, I didn't hear anyone cry that he got no votes. The reason is simple, everyone voted for the correct candidate. I bet all voters would have agreed that Vick was second, but they could only vote for one person and that was the deserving person (Tom Brady).
I expect Brady to get NO votes this year.
As you can tell from my screen name, I love Tom Brady as much as anyone, but he doesn't deserve the MVP this year. He's behind Brees and Rodgers in TDs and yards thrown. Plus he has thrown more interceptions than Rodgers. I know Brady's supporting cast is not as good as Brees or ROdgers, but people care more about the numbers. In my view, he lost the MVP race with that dreadful performance against Buffalo.
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