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  1. PatsFan24

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    Anyone sick of the goverment wanting to regulate things for adults because of the kids? You have to be an adult to get it, then it is a pain in the ass because of the kids!


    http://www.christianpost.com/articl...Pornography.htm

    An outspoken Christian attorney will be debating Wednesday with the president of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) over the role that the government has in monitoring pornography that is accessible to youth.

    The event - titled “Bare it or Bar It: Should the Government Regulate Adult Pornography to Prevent Exposure to Minors?” - will feature Mike Johnson, senior legal counsel from the Christian legal group Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) and ACLU head Nadine Strossen. Discussion will be held at the Adams Center for Law & Society at Susquehanna University in Selinsgrove, Pa., about 150 miles northwest of Philadelphia.

    While ACLU’s Strossen contends against government interference, Johnson strongly insists that the government should play a large role in protecting children, and that it would in no way violate the constitution.

    “The government has a legitimate interest in protecting children from exposure to pornography,” said the Christian attorney in a statement. “The Constitution does not prohibit local governments from taking reasonable measures to prevent minors from viewing sexually explicit materials.

    “Society must draw the line against the porn peddlers and their assault on the innocence and safety of America’s youth,” Johnson added.
    Strossen would think otherwise, noting that the government does not have the right to make such an action. She has authored a related book on pornography entitled Defending Pornography: Free Speech, Sex, and the Fight for Women's Rights.

    Prior to the upcoming debate, ADF has contested the ACLU in the past. The president of the Christian organization – which states its goal is to defend “the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation – has even co-authored a book with author Craig Osteen titled The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values.
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    Yeah, stupid Government. Who cares that almost every child molester gets all riled up while watching or reading porn. Thats what makes this country great, whacking off in an uncontrolled environment. Besides, how else best to show my support for "Women's Rights" :rolleyes:

    so...was I sarcastic enough??
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    I think there are many questions that need to be answered on this subject, and until that time the best solution is to encourage parents to install filters and let the police devote their energy to going after child abuse.

    Does pornography give people ideas for sex crimes? Does the internet help people trade pictures? Does the internet provide a means for police to track down sexual predators? Does looking at pornography at a young age do any damage? Does pornography provide a safe release for those who might otherwise engage in sex crimes? Would outlawing pornography stop pornography? Would outlawing pornography reduce the incidence of disease and abuse among pornographers, or would it simply make it less regulated?
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    "monitoring pornography that is accessible to youth"

    does this sound like "outlawing"??

    hardly.
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    Uh, actually yeah it kinda does... this is part of how the political process works... when you want something outlawed but know it would be impossible to get it banned outright, you start with something like "monitoring" it.... then, after a few years of that, you show all the outrages your "monitoring" has discovered and suggest action needs to follow.

    PolySci 101.
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    Did you already forget the Communications Decency Act that tried to completely ban pornography on the internet and was shot down by a unanimous Supreme Court?
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    #75 Jersey

    Maybe if the government wasn't taxing the hell out of us, and the lawyers all dropped dead so healthcare costs and insurance was affordable, a parent could stay home and watch the kids and keep the freaks out of the shadows. We also need to lock up the freaks for a lot longer than we do. Let all the weed growers out of jail and replace them with diddlers.

    The government cannot control people by passing new laws that involve "monitoring" or banning a behavior. Every time they ban something, it's social value and interest goes up. Parents need to be better parents and the lords of government need to keep out of our private lives. Never been into porn that much, but I loved looking at Penthouse...still do. People caught with kiddie porn need to be sent to my "special prison" in Northern Alaska forever.
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    oh, i forgot, talking to a lot of guys who like porn here, whether liberal or conservative, there is "common ground" on Patsfan.com

    my bad :)
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    These sex freaks are the worst of the worst among even the criminal world. They should be the first priority for exile to Siberia or northern Alaska. One set of cloths, a loaf of bread, and good-bye, you're on your own.



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    I watch porn 3 or 4 times a week. I enjoy it. I'm no pedophile, sex adict, or stalking perv either. I've been monogomous since I went I first dated my gf well over a year ago. Virtually every guy I know watches it, and a lot of women watch it too. I've had women ask me to put one on while over ( the good ole days of singledom :rocker: & please, don't tell my gf! :D ). At any rate, porn presents an interesting question regarding it's censorship, or abolition. Should it be monitored, abolished, or set free? There is no doubt that it has a negative affect on people, and an even greater affect on our youth. I don't profess to know what the answer is, but I do believe that there should be some restrictions, or guidelines in place to protect youths from exposure. I think that's simply common sense. Like alchohol, I wouldn't want my child to drink, but once of age, I would expect him to use his own discretion. Porn is no different. That I watch it, or don't watch it, should be my choice, but with respect to kids, it should be restricted.
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    When will the bible boppers get it? Watching LEGAL pornography does not make you a kid toucher nor does being gay make you a kid toucher.


    Its always in the name of the children but its really about pushing your holier than thou agenda.
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    At the very least porn needs to be restricted and regulated, like alcohol and tobacco.

    Virtually every horrific murderer who has spoken about this has said they were frequent users of porn: Ted Bundy, Jefferey Dahmer, and others. Without learning how to control our sexual desire we are slaves, and that's not good.



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    [OK, last post of the day for me.]
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    That was disgusting, this is the kind of smut the Reverand Falwell has been trying to get banned in this country and out of the hands of the perverts that peddle this trash, it is filth like this that is destroying our children and turning some of our adults into full blown "sex fiends".

    It was watching things like this that drove Mike Tyson mad.

    Stop The Sinning Protect Our Virgins And Our God fearing Young Men.
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    I disagree. Those examples are part of a small segment of society that cannot control their impulses. Most if not all of us have crazy thoughts and desires at times and the thing that separates us from the crazies is that we dont act on them.

    How should porn be regulated outside of keeping it out of the hands of minors?
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    So why is it a problem to have regulations and limits to porn? What are you afraid of, you wont get your fix or something?
    I couldnt care less if you whack off or not, but the more its uncontrolled in society the more it gets accepted as the norm in society and that effects the world our kids grow up in.

    Maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to do what other countries do it keep it all in one section of town so the ones who want to live in the cesspool can feel free to do so.

    I would rather have a legal combat zone back in Boston than have people getting their rocks off in other ways all over the city. let all the pervs act out all they want in the dark side and stop trying to teach it in schools.
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    We live in a free country you fluck face. I dont even watch porn to be honest with you but if I did want to watch it I'd like to know that I'm free to do so without the god damned morality police knocking down my door infringing on what I'm doing in the privacy of my own flucking home.


    Like I said before, the only regulations that should be put on it are that it shouldnt be sold/seen by juveniles and no kiddie porn of course.
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    how dramatic.

    Who is knocking down your door?
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    #75 Jersey

    What is your goal in codifying your moral standards into the legal code of a "free society". What do you think it will do, reduce the appetite for porn? Porn is one of the largest forms of entertainment in the US, right behind acting pious and pretending to be cool. Would you like to legislate those things, too?

    More laws are not what we need. Worry about your kids.

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