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  1. JSn

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    In Reiss' Blog:

    Maroney marches forward - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

    No one around here like that, right? ;)
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    I hope his play does the talking. There's no doubting the ability. But I need more than words to show that he has what it takes to be a stud RB. Until proven otherwise, I think that he runs too upright, dances around too much int he backfield, and shies away from contact. I hope to God he proves me wrong.
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    I think Maroney has tons of talent, but I've heard this story before. He needs to prove it on the field.
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    I feel this will be the season Maroney will finally show us all what he is capable of. :D
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    I think your record player is stuck, hehe.
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    With the shoulder healed up I fully expect the end of 2007, running-people-over, downhill Maroney to show up.

    Maroney, Watson, Woods. I'm rooting for the put upons.
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    Same here. If only his last name was "Waroney".
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    In every sport, there are injuries that can be played through and injuries that can't, and those injuries can vary by position in some sports. Running backs lead with their upper bodies/shoulders to take on hits. Maroney injured his shoulder, meaning every hit was a jar to his injury. Either the shoulder didn't heal or he got a new shoulder injury and had to go through the same process all over again. We're not talking about just bruised ribs here, where taking a week or two off solves the problem.

    Let's have some of the tough guys on this board take a pounding from 350 pound tackles and 250 pound linebackers flying in and cracking them shoulder to shoulder, even with healthy shoulders. Maybe then they'll shut up about this. Rather than busting on the running back, perhaps they could show some concern that a kid of that age is already dealing with two shoulder surgeries (Well, assuming he had surgery both times since the Patriots medical staff can keep secrets better than the CIA) and that could lead to issues later on in his life. The kid tried to play through the injuries and couldn't. I'm quite confident that a lot of the people complaining about his fragility would be pulling themselves out of sports at the first tweak of a hamstring, assuming they could bring themselves to get off the couch first.
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    Yeah, a bum shoulder doesn't make for a downhill running style. I do think Maroney's style is best with a little room to move.

    I really think the acquisition of Fred Taylor is partially to school Maroney on hitting the hole and running in tight quarters.

    Mo will never be Earl Campbell, but every RB has to be able to run it up the gut occasionally to keep the defense honest.

    I remember Parcells saying he thought Curtis Martin's game would improve by running inside more, and he was right. And Martin doesn't pack the load Maroney does.
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    Yeah, a shoulder injury is a terrible thing for a RB. It makes you shy away from contact, and opens you up to all sorts of (nonsensical, imo) criticisms of being soft etc. The last few games of 07, and into the playoffs he was doing a far better job of taking it up the gut, and even moving the odd pile or two.
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    I don't post much around here, but the Maroney bashing has always annoyed me. (Not saying it's anyone in this thread.)

    As another commenter mentioned, it's a tough game. Yes, it's tough for everyone, but especially at the RB position you're going to have guys who get hurt more often.

    Now the media and boards have lauded bringing in Fred Taylor this offseason; I agree with that praise. He's going to be an asset. However, wasn't Fred Taylor labeled "Fragile Fred" for a bulk of his career? People piled on him and the 'hating' seemed to snowball on the guy.

    Well Maroney's never killed anyone, never assaulted his girl, never received a DUI, and has always been at the workout programs and mini-camps. Maybe instead of "killing the guy" we should cut him some slack. He's in the prime of his career for a RB and has more physical ability than any of the RBs on the roster. I'm encouraged by his attitude and hope for a good year from the guy.
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    It will certainly be exciting to see him in space if the run blocking is as killer as it was in the latter half of last year. To my understanding, that's when he's the biggest problem and we might like his dancing then.
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    I remember spraining (just spraining) my shoulder when I played hockey. I could barely lift my arm to my shoulder height without an excruciating twist. If a 250 pound guy tackled me with it, I probably would have passed out.

    I think Maroney has some things to work on as all players do. But in his healthy years he averaged over 4 ypc, and I don't think you do that by being soft.
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    I agree, Fred Taylor has been a durable back with a long career for a RB.
    He certainly did not hurt Maurice Jones Drew in Jax.

    He's never really had a back with his style to learn from.
    Faulk is a pass catcher... Morris is a truck.
    Taylor is close to Maroney in style and can hopefully teach him how and when to protect himself.
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    So is Maroney's.
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    With Taylor in the Mix I expect That Maroney gives a good solid season like he did with Dillon here. Between the two they will put up really good numbers and add in what Morris and Faulk can do and our run game should be great.

    Maroney has tons of skills and if he is healthy he is fun to watch. With the staple of backs we have we don't have to worry about his health because there is depth so I am excited to see what he can do.
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    I don't think anyone's questioning his toughness, and those questioning his ability are fools, but we can question his ability to stay on the field - he needs to prove he can.
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    And Taylor is oh so quick to the hole. Different style than the Jim Brownish, deceptively lazy, then quickstep that Dillon used.

    Maroney's got the power, it's his timing to the hole that's off. In the open field he's as good as anyone, I think. fast as hell and just overpowers single tacklers, especially DB's.
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    Really? Maroney's played in 16 games over the past 2 seasons (he also played in 14 of 16 games as a rookie). Morris has played in 19 (just 12 in Maroney's rookie season. Neither number is anywhere near the 32 games maximum.

    So, where are all the Morris bashing threads and snide comments? He's played in 1 more game than Maroney since Maroney's been in the NFL.
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    His style of dancing in the backfield no matter how healthy will prevent him from being much of a game breaker.

    Until he hits the hole hard like Sammy Morris does, he won't be much of a threat ever.
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    I will believe this sudden resurgence of Maphony when I see it

    Talk is cheap - Prove it to us that you are not the biggest waste of a #1 pick in the BB era
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    Because a quick, shifty, good in open space, non-downhill runner has NEVER made an impact in an NFL game... ever.
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    I don't understand the Maroney bashing. He had a fine rookie season. For the first half of that season he was being considered for offensive ROY honors. He's been injured a couple of times. It is not unusual for a RB to be tentative when playing injured, or after a recent injury.

    Maroney is competing for reps with Morris. Both have been injured a lot in the past. If Morris is better, it is OK. Maroney would then be the utility backup of all three RB spots, as well as being the primary kick returner or backup kick returner. Even in these backup roles, he would be well worth his salary for 2009 and for 2010.

    Running backs average 3-4 years in the league. Maroney is a fine value in his 3rd year and fourth years at $700K a year.
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    "But he currently has a clean bill of health and is fueled by those who aren't figuring him into the team's running back plans."
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    I would like to personally thank all of you here on Patsfans for continually dissing Maroney. You have motivated him to become a better player. Thanks!

    Now, could you all please go after....Watson?
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    Couldnt agree more. I always find it funny when a guy sitting at a desk questions the toughness and heart of a guy who makes his living enduring collisions with the biggest, stronges athletes in the world.
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    1) What are you calling sudden resurgence? He has been good whenever healthy?
    2) Why would you insist on calling him a name like Maphony? Does it make you feel better. I'd love to know what you do for a living and watch you for a few days and rip you to shreds over every imperfection in your performance.
    3) I don't see where he is trying to replace playing with talking.
    Basically every word of your post is ignorant.
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    So what you would like is for a cutback runner who skills include an ability to find daylight to close his eyes and run straight ahead until he hits something?
    Inwould venture that more than half of the top 10 rushers in NFL history would have been benchwarmers with that approach.
    By the way, Maroney (or anyone else with that type of running style) doesnt 'dance' he cuts back, slows to set up his blocking, or changes direction. Watch some football and understand what you are watching before making ignorant comments. "Dancing" implies he stands there and shuffles his feet for no reason, and your post implies that is his plan, and the NEP coaching staff supports it by putting him on the field.
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    He'll be on "Dancing with the Stars" next season, after he's cut.
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