Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss to Reiss, Thursday night

[wahwho]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

He also threatened that his client had lots of “dirt” on him. Making such threats is clearly unethical, and in my opinion, criminal.

If everything happened as he described (and I don't doubt it at this point, if they took it to the Feds then that pretty much demonstrates they weren't the ones trying to keep things quiet) then it's clearly criminal. The lawyer has a lot to lose, and the girl might as well. The problem is that, regardless of the facts of this particular incident, she may well have "dirt" on Randy. Face it, whatever he's been this year, he has had (at least) some drug issues in the past. She's known him since college and probably can put out a story with enough truth in it to seriously damage Moss whether she gets her half-mil or not.

They've already started a character assassination attempt with the line about 'Moss isn't likely to remember that day', and because of his history Moss will start out with two strikes against him. Throw in the general hatred for All Things Patriots that's going around lately and nobody will care about the actual facts. That's my real worry here, that a guy who seems to be trying to turn things around is about to be chased down by his past. Sucks, basically, but I see bad things ahead.

 

[IcyPatriot]

This is still nothing more than a "he said she said" incident. This is Randy's agent and he could be easily be making this stuff up. Just as she has no evidence that anything occurred, where is the evidence for this?

Look, I want to believe Moss because I don't want it to hurt my team. However, this statement changes nothing in my mind.

Do you know how to read? 3 different attorneys say the same thing.

 

[Wildo7]

Do you know how to read? 3 different attorneys say the same thing.

Exactly. Don't forget that most agents are lawyers too, so this is three lawyers talking candidly about a series of events that, if they were lying, they'd have to be damn careful not to slip up or have any inconsistencies amongst them when discussing it. They also let Randy speak his mind to the press for a good ten minutes. Top lawyers do not do this if they are afraid of someone saying something inconsistent with the other 3 (2 lawyers and Moss). I have very little doubt that they are telling the truth. Think about how guarded lawyers are, even when they are in the right. They know that anything that is said by mistake can be damaging, and these very good lawyers are not concerned about that whatsoever. Not to mention that whatever you think of most lawyers, while they may defend people they know are guilty or stick up for questionable characters, the chances that Randy has hired 3 attorneys willing to completely fabricate a story such as this, put their careers on the line, risk being disbarred and possibly even facing criminal charges is very small. No matter how much Randy pays them, this would be unbelievably rare.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

what are the chances that the media won't give this woman the platform to bring out more "dirt" on Randy? Once extortion charges are filed against this attorney, and this woman never files a lawsuit, will the media allow her to say "Randy smoked weed, had guns, likes porn" etc.? I hope not but hey, it's the media. There is something fundamentally unjust if Randy's career is hurt by the NFL because of whatever this woman says about her and it would open a Pandora's box of people who knew athletes before they were famous coming out of the woodwork to demand money or they'll go public with the dirt. In other words, Goodell better not fine, punish or investigate Randy because of what this woman says about his past.

Unless criminal charges are filed, and Randy's Florida lawyer said tonight to Felger that was not going to happen in part because this woman has lost all credibility via her attorney's extortion attempts, Goodell will have nothing to say on the matter. Randy did mention that he has been in the program and tested clean for some time now, so that will further diminish any accusations she may want to throw his way. Her lawyer seemed to by trying to imply that Randy was impaired, as perhaps was his client, on the night in question. So what? Unless he were in the program for DUI, the league has no prohibition against alcohol use on your own time.

They are just trying to sling mud at a mark in hopes of leveraging him into a settlement. I like that his advisors have told him screw that.

 

[Wildo7]

Unless criminal charges are filed, and Randy's Florida lawyer said tonight to Felger that was not going to happen in part because this woman has lost all credibility via her attorney's extortion attempts, Goodell will have nothing to say on the matter. Randy did mention that he has been in the program and tested clean for some time now, so that will further diminish any accusations she may want to throw his way. Her lawyer seemed to by trying to imply that Randy was impaired, as perhaps was his client, on the night in question. So what? Unless he were in the program for DUI, the league has no prohibition against alcohol use on your own time.

They are just trying to sling mud at a mark in hopes of leveraging him into a settlement. I like that his advisors have told him screw that.

Is that league policy, or is that just Goodell's MO? I know that with Vick and Pacman, he waited, but I didn't know if that was because he was being tentative or if he has said that in any and all cases involving alleged illegalities or conduct unbecoming league policy, he will not rule until charges are filed.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

State would have to prove she knew they were false. In other words prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew Randy did not act intentionally.

Not even that. She wanted the restraining order to protect her from FUTURE harm, not past harm. How do you prove she wasn't concerned about future harm? Although, if I were her, I would not say, "I was trying to shake him down and blackmail him for a half a mil, so I was afraid of his reaction." :bricks:

 

[spacecrime]

This is still nothing more than a "he said she said" incident. This is Randy's agent and he could be easily be making this stuff up. Just as she has no evidence that anything occurred, where is the evidence for this?

Look, I want to believe Moss because I don't want it to hurt my team. However, this statement changes nothing in my mind.

Did you read the statement? Scroll up and read it, especially the part about Moss's team going to the FBI and US Attorney's Office? That's a bit more than he said, she said, isn't it? Bringing in the Feds isn't exactly what guilty people tend to do.

 

[Brady to Brown]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

Not even that. She wanted the restraining order to protect her from FUTURE harm, not past harm. How do you prove she wasn't concerned about future harm? Although, if I were her, I would not say, "I was trying to shake him down and blackmail him for a half a mil, so I was afraid of his reaction." :bricks:

Well Moss is going to be busy for the next month. Why would she need a restraining order against a guy that will not be anywhere near her.

 

[TheSparks1]

From the people that brought you Bill Belichick's "FU, NFL" Road Show....

We need to show Randy how we feel about this accusation.

*NOTE* - I have no intentions of actually making this sign. Simply too much work. The picture of Randy is key.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

I was absolutely certain Randy did nothing wrong as soon as I heard the complaint. The "Prevented her from seeking medical attention" was the dead give-away. This only confirm's my original thoughts and puts to rest any questions as to Randy's guilt.

I am so glad for Randy Moss.

 

[kriskanos]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

No Mr. Bond I expect you to die!

 

[BrianPat]

From the people that brought you Bill Belichick's "FU, NFL" Road Show....

Good job on the graphics !

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

DiPiero is, by the way, not merely an agent. While he is a licensed sports agent, he also is a lawyer himself, with exceptional credentials and a listing in "Best Lawyers in America." (He also has as a peer review rating from Martindale Hubbel of BV. This is not their best rating -- AV is. But for more than 100 years, the Martindale Hubbel peer ratings are one of the hardest to get. The "B" in BV means his peers have rated him as "high to very high" for competence. The "V" means his "ethical standards" are "very high."

Joe Friedberg is one of the most preeminent criminal defense lawyers in the country. Not one of the guys you have heard about because they like to have their name on tv. He is an AV rated lawyer. Richard Sharpstein is also an AV rated lawyer with more than 30 years experience.

McGill is an unrated lawyer with 2 years experience who lists as his office address a DUI firm, which does not even have him listed as an associate on their web site.

DiPiero did everything right in this case. He contacted the FBI BEFORE the order of protection was sought. He had two lawyers independently contact Mr. McGill -- two lawyers of unquestioned ethics who can corroborate the story.

The problem with Mr. McGill's case is that you cannot offer to settle an order of protection case. His client must assert that she feels an immediate threat of imminent harm. Offering to settle that claim for money is virtually (if not absolutely) a per se ethical violation. Money cannot make a person stop feeling threatened. I suspect it is probably ethically improper for a lawyer in Florida ever to offer to settle a dating violence claim for money, under Fla's rules of professional conduct. Think about it -- how could you ever say "I think he's about to hurt me" but not still feel that way just because he gives you money?

McGill really has brought a knife to a gun fight here. He's way over his head.

 

[Trot]

DiPiero is, by the way, not merely an agent. While he is a licensed sports agent, he also is a lawyer himself, with exceptional credentials and a listing in "Best Lawyers in America." (He also has as a peer review rating from Martindale Hubbel of BV. This is not their best rating -- AV is. But for more than 100 years, the Martindale Hubbel peer ratings are one of the hardest to get. The "B" in BV means his peers have rated him as "high to very high" for competence. The "V" means his "ethical standards" are "very high."

Joe Friedberg is one of the most preeminent criminal defense lawyers in the country. Not one of the guys you have heard about because they like to have their name on tv. He is an AV rated lawyer. Richard Sharpstein is also an AV rated lawyer with more than 30 years experience.

McGill is an unrated lawyer with 2 years experience who lists as his office address a DUI firm, which does not even have him listed as an associate on their web site.

DiPiero did everything right in this case. He contacted the FBI BEFORE the order of protection was sought. He had two lawyers independently contact Mr. McGill -- two lawyers of unquestioned ethics who can corroborate the story.

The problem with Mr. McGill's case is that you cannot offer to settle an order of protection case. His client must assert that she feels an immediate threat of imminent harm. Offering to settle that claim for money is virtually (if not absolutely) a per se ethical violation. Money cannot make a person stop feeling threatened. I suspect it is probably ethically improper for a lawyer in Florida ever to offer to settle a dating violence claim for money, under Fla's rules of professional conduct. Think about it -- how could you ever say "I think he's about to hurt me" but not still feel that way just because he gives you money?

McGill really has brought a knife to a gun fight here. He's way over his head.

Great information and insight! Thanks.

 

[eom]

DiPiero is, by the way, not merely an agent. While he is a licensed sports agent, he also is a lawyer himself, with exceptional credentials and a listing in "Best Lawyers in America." (He also has as a peer review rating from Martindale Hubbel of BV. This is not their best rating -- AV is. But for more than 100 years, the Martindale Hubbel peer ratings are one of the hardest to get. The "B" in BV means his peers have rated him as "high to very high" for competence. The "V" means his "ethical standards" are "very high."

Joe Friedberg is one of the most preeminent criminal defense lawyers in the country. Not one of the guys you have heard about because they like to have their name on tv. He is an AV rated lawyer. Richard Sharpstein is also an AV rated lawyer with more than 30 years experience.

McGill is an unrated lawyer with 2 years experience who lists as his office address a DUI firm, which does not even have him listed as an associate on their web site.

DiPiero did everything right in this case. He contacted the FBI BEFORE the order of protection was sought. He had two lawyers independently contact Mr. McGill -- two lawyers of unquestioned ethics who can corroborate the story.

The problem with Mr. McGill's case is that you cannot offer to settle an order of protection case. His client must assert that she feels an immediate threat of imminent harm. Offering to settle that claim for money is virtually (if not absolutely) a per se ethical violation. Money cannot make a person stop feeling threatened. I suspect it is probably ethically improper for a lawyer in Florida ever to offer to settle a dating violence claim for money, under Fla's rules of professional conduct. Think about it -- how could you ever say "I think he's about to hurt me" but not still feel that way just because he gives you money?

McGill really has brought a knife to a gun fight here. He's way over his head.

lololololol...thx for a most excellent post.

I've pretty much stayed out of these threads --- wtf is wrong w/her, anyway?
she broke a nail??

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

lololololol...thx for a most excellent post.

I've pretty much stayed out of these threads --- wtf is wrong w/her, anyway?
she broke a nail??

Sounds like it might be a little more serious than that, since Dipiero was, apparently, willing to make a claim on Randy's homeowner's policy.

 

[Sivy]

Does anyone else thing Moss seemes like a really smart person? I just get that from him when he talks, yea I know he's done some crap in his younger days, but he seems way to smart now for any of this to be true.

anyone wanna talk about the chargers?

 

[Wildo7]

Does anyone else thing Moss seemes like a really smart person? I just get that from him when he talks, yea I know he's done some crap in his younger days, but he seems way to smart now for any of this to be true.

anyone wanna talk about the chargers?

I agree. He'sone of those guys that if you really think about what he's trying to say, it's very thoughtful and smart. Unfortunately he isn't incredibly articulate which I think makes people see him at face-value as unintelligent, but he's definitely smart.

 

[PantsB]

Two things David McGill should probably have considered before trying to use Moss's fame as a sports figure against him.

One - He'll piss off a lot of fans (short for fanatic)
Two - His information is Google-able.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Re: Email from Tim DiPiero, agent for Randy Moss

State would have to prove she knew they were false. In other words prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew Randy did not act intentionally. Very difficult to do.

However, even if he in fact beat the living crap out of her. What the atty did was extortion.

Come on now don't spread false info. Some people will take what you just said above as what happened.
From the facts that I know, Randy accidently hurt her while they were horsing around. But the injury was hardly serious as the x-ray on the finger came out negative.
If as you say Randy had beat the crap out of her, he would be in BIG TROUBLE, whether or not her attorney was trying to extort Moss.

So don't say such false things so flippantly.
That's the trouble with the justice system in the first place.
Some attorneys apparently don't take seriously the fact that any lawsuit claimed should be filed in good faith that the claims are based on merit.

If the extortion claims hold up, then that woman's lawyer WILL BE in serious trouble.
And I think that with 3 different attornies hearing it, well that's going to be hard for that guy to wiggle out of.