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Ellis to the Raiders: Could this signal the Burgess Deal?

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  1. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    ProFootballTalk.com - Greg Ellis Picks The Raiders

    Pretty funny one. Not like even we as fans don't make these kind of cracks about Patriots signees.

     
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    Now we get Burgess for a 3rd rounder hopefully
     
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    i gotta be honest, i do call them the Geriatriots sometimes. we do sign older players, there's no question about it
     
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    I liked Ellis more than Burgess because no compensation would have been necessary.

    Burgess has a $3.5 M salary, unless that is changed I don't see him becoming a Pat.
    Derrick Burgess
     
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    Hope this is true, but this theory rests on the faulty assumption that there is some method to the Raiders' madness.
     
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    That's a dangerous assumption indeed.

    All and all, it would make a deal to send Burgess to us seem much more likely and it's the last glaring positional hole to be filled before TC, Pre-season and into the regular season..... Outside Linebacker.

    I'm on-board with a high second or a third round pick to Oakland for Burgess. Preferably, a third! :cool:
     
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    I don't know a lot about this guy. Is the prospect of getting him exciting? Are we sure he'd be an upgrade? I'm not asking to start a fight, I just don't know.
     
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    All good questions, JSn..... I don't know either. If BB pulls the trigger on compensation for Burgess that's good enough for me. Not all FA's work out but a lot do once BB brings them in, we'll just have to wait and see.......
     
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    I would say no, but someone once told me that BB is smarter than me :D
    I just don't see how we have the money right now to do that trade, and sign rookies. Also, i think Woods will surprise some people this year. Or, ive lost my mind :eek:
     
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    I too, have high hopes for Pierre Woods this season. As well as Sean Crable. Maybe if BB decides to trade for a Burgess he sees him as OLB insurance, and a bridge to the 2010 season. I just theorizing here. I think it's safe to say, IF BB acquires him he sees the value of the player better than almost anyone else, God might be the better judge but I wouldn't bet on it!
     
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    I too, have high hopes for Pierre Woods this season. As well as Sean Crable. Maybe if BB decides to trade for a Burgess he sees him as OLB insurance, and a bridge to the 2010 season. I'm just theorizing here. I think it's safe to say, IF BB acquires him he sees the value of the player better than almost anyone else, God might be the better judge but I wouldn't bet on it!
     
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    Why would anyone *choose* to go to the Raiders as a FA? That's just crazy. Ellis needs to get his head checked.
     
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    I would shocked and extremely disappointed if we gave up a "high second" round pick for Burgess.

    I think he might be a nice pick-up, but not at that price
     
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    Given the reference in the alternative to the 3d round pick, I assume he meant a "high" number selection, what most of us refer to as a "low" second round pick. If Burgess can provide what the pre-injury Colvin provided early in 2007 I would be on board for trading our own 2d for him.
     
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    I get my highs and lows confused when it comes to the draft sometimes....

    By "high second round" I mean the worst of the three we currently possess. Would that be stated correctly as the "lowest" second rounder we have?
     
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    Ask yourself: If a player was drafted 'higher' than expected what would that mean to you?
     
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    Oakland will trade Burgess to the Patriots after the Raiders

    consummate their deal for Julius Peppers.
     
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    Peppers to Oakland! That'll never happen............... Oh, I get your point suddenly! Heh, heh......
     
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    "Why would anyone *choose* to go to the Raiders as a FA? That's just crazy. Ellis needs to get his head checked."

    I don't think he had much of a choice tbh, no-one good wanted him, probably
     
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    I refer to picks as early or late round picks. To me that is the least confusing way to think of them. A late round pick is near the end of the round. And an early pick is near the beginning of the round, etc.

    I'm hoping we pay no more than a 4th round pick for Burgess. Wouldn't he also be a conversion project for 3-4 OLB or has he played OLB before?
     
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