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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    lets Hope the pats secondary does not make him look like Tom Brady this sunday
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    yeah because you know then the NY media will be all over this and make believe that he is better than Brady......:eek::eek:
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    i gotta give him credit

    my boy rivers has regressed and is playing like eli's worst years , and eli is playing like rivers best years


    eli's on pace to take the most sacks in a year he's ever taken , yet he's got 13 tds to only 5 ints

    5 ints after having thrown 25 last year

    and at this time last year eli was 14 tds/11 ints

    so he's playing a lot better


    still, over the course of his career he's been too inconsistent to have any brady/eli comparison that holds any water
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    He's been listening in on the Jest media relations training.
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    well, playing the pats will certainly help him make this point
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    And I think I am the same looks class as Leonardo DiCaprio. If Eli can be in the same QB class as Brady, I can be in the same looks class as Leo.
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    If you have to convince people by telling them you are as good as Brady, then you arent. Plain and simple.

    That comparison is for others to determine, not Eli.
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    Give me a break.

    They asked him a question during the offseason (do you think you're an elite QB?), and he answered it the way he believes. Now they're bringing it up again.

    This really has nothing to do with Eli and everything to do with the media wanting something to write about. It's not like he started comparing himself to Brady unprompted.
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    Manning said that hes as good as Tom Brady. When asked if he was as good as Brady, Manning said, Yes. After 20 INTs in 2009 and 25 INTs in 2010.

    He opened his mouth and compared himself to a 1st ballot HOF QB.

    Who actually believes that but Manning?
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    Wow!

    Can you believe the gall of a franchise QB to consider himself as good a player as anyone else in the league?

    If there's anything I want in my starting QB, it's a complete lack of confidence in his own skills, right?
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    I understand your point here but really? After the year Brady had: NFL MVP, 36 TDs and 4 INTs, 14-2 reg season. Manning: Just a terrible season all around not including his INTs.

    I think it was just the timing that he said it. Everyone was still in awe on Brady's best season and he opened his mouth after his worse season with nonsense.
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    What should he have said?

    "Brady is really good and I'm not"?

    Again, Eli didn't call a press conference to announce that he's as good as Brady. He answered a question in an interview as honestly as he could.

    Getting worked up over it is exactly what the writers who took it and ran with it wanted. Getting worked up over it 2 months later just because the Pats and the Giants are playing their scheduled game against each other is a bonus, because they don't even have to come up with new material to get page views and angsty comments from Patriots' fans.
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    Eli Manning is a douche.
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    No

    A sign hangs in the NE locker room that says "Dont feed the hype." Brady has been compared to Montana numerous times and he always deflects the comparison away when quizzed about it.

    The NY media threw the bait out there and Manning swallowed it hook, line and sinker. After 8 years in NYC you would think that Manning would be smart enough to handle the media.

    If he doesnt play lights out this Sunday and the Giants lose, Manning will be ripped up one side and down the other for his Brady comments.

    Who is all worked up?

    The fact that Manning is still fielding questions whether or not hes nothing more than a mediocre NFL QB 8 years after being drafted says it all. It would not surprise me in the least if Eli Manning never wins another Super Bowl.
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    I recall when Elisha was coming out in in the draft he was touted as possibly the most talented Manning... I have a feeling his whole life has been about comparisons and he likely has the all too common third child insecurities as a result. So he can't bring himself to say, I wish, or that's what I'm striving for...

    If not for the greatest helmet catch in NFL history and one hell of a defensive game plan coupled with that pedigree, he might not even be a Giant these days. He's never been a leader, Strahan of all people had to rally the troops around him and Generalisimo Coughlin in 2007 or they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Mara was questioning whether Eli could ever lead a team to a championship...

    As franchise QB's go he's about as close to the antithesis of Tom Brady as you can get. They've all got talent or they'd never get a shot in the NFL. At least guys like Romo have the charisma if not the focus and discipline to lead...albeit in fits and starts. Eli has nothing going for him beyond his maddeningly inconsistent performances on the field and dumb luck.

    Amassed all sorts of college accolades. Not so many at the next level. Thirty years old, his career half over, one Pro Bowl nod. A SB MVP courtesy of David Tyree and Mike Carey swallowing his whistle... Never an all pro, not even second team... Closest he's ever come to a league MVP trophy is when he visits Peyton's house...

    But other than that...nearly a mirror image of Brady's eliteness...:bricks:
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    I'm sorry if this is old stuff, but this thread needs it.

    Manning Face
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    The guy can say whatever he wants. I have no real idea how wrong or right he may be, but it's irrelevant - I just want the Patriots to win and don't care if they do so with Eli playing better than Tom.
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    No...never apologize for that stuff, it never gets old... Eli and Peyton are a lot closer in class than Eli and Tom ever will, albeit not statistically.... They are nearly in a class by themselves expression wise, although Rivers occasionally gives them a run for their money...
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    Hopefully our D won't fuel the fires of his delusion on Sunday...
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    Things Eli Manning said:

    "I believe I'm in the class of elite QBs, like Tom Brady."

    Things Eli Manning didn't say:

    "I am Tom Brady."

    It doesn't make any sense to argue about things Eli never said. I'm starting to get the feeling that most of the animosity towards Eli has to do with the fact that he beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. That loss hurts just as much as ever, but I can't fathom holding it personally against Eli. Is he really such a hate-able guy?
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    Not neccassirily.

    I could care less what Eli and the Giants do, the only team I hate is the Jets. We are all just accessing this information differently and applying it in different terms.

    We know that Eli didnt say he was Tom Brady. We just feel they shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. Forget what he said or what the article reads, do you personally think that Eli Manning is on Tom Brady's level?

    Honestly?

    I can name atleast 6-7 QBs I like much better than him.
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    To me, it's not about whether or not I believe Eli is on Tom's level.

    Eli believes he is, and that's his opinion. He's entitled to it. A reporter asked him for his opinion, and he gave it.

    In this day and age of "it is what it is" and "the Dolphins are a great team, really, they do a lot of things well", I can't find it in me to get upset at an athlete just because they say what they believe. I want to hear what they really think. What is the point of reading interviews with people who say nothing?

    Eli obviously thinks he's got what it takes to be a great quarterback. Good for him. If I were a Giants' fan, I wouldn't want him to say anything else.
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    That sounds a bit petty. Eli earned that MVP not only with great play during the entire playoffs, but with one of the most clutch 2 minute drives in SB history. The helmet catch can't be made if he doesn't escape pressure & make a great throw.

    I disagree w/ some of the responses on the thread that he's saying he's "as good" as Brady. He's just saying he's in the same class, meaning he's one of the top QB's in the game today.
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    Eli Manning is a 2nd Tier QB IMO....hes not an elite QB like Brady, his brother, rodgers, brees(?).....but hes better than the flaccos/sanchez's and is in that 2nd tier of QB's who are good, can manage a game and make passes and win for their team like Roethlisberger, Romo etc.
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    And just like in any case on this message board, we're all entitled to disagree with his opinion as vehemently as we choose to particularly since the facts don't remotely back up his assertion.

    If someone asked Tom Brady if he was in Montana's class and he said "hell, yes", his assertation would be well within reason...but I'd be disappointed that he felt it necessary to even make it. Difference is Tom is not insecure and as a result he would never feel the need to make that kind of assertation. Eli has to because he's not only insecure, he knows on some level his employers and Giants fans share his insecurity.
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    Manning compared himself TO Tom Brady. He was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer.



    The New York Giants quarterback didn't shy away when, as a Tuesday guest on "The Michael Kay Show" on ESPN New York 1050, he was asked if he is in the same class as three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady



    "I consider myself in that class," said Manning,
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    You don't earn the SB MVP for great play during the entire playoffs or Peyton wouldn't have one, and Eli did nothing against GB in the NFCC, and the helmet catch can't be made if Mike Carey doesn't admittedly choke on his whistle when Eli was clearly in the grasp... He's not one of the top QB's in the game today. He's in the mix of the top ten by default, but the top 5 are the elite QB's and those are Brady, the other Manning when healthy, Rodgers, Brees and Roethlisberger by virtue of his two rings including one won when he flat out sucked although he literally got them there that post season...

    Eli's career completion % remains well under 60% in the regular season and the playoffs. Absent 5 games this season his career passer rating in the regular season and playoffs is an abyssmal 78%. His TD to INT ratio is well above 2-1...while his TD to Fumble ratio IS NOT. And that **** kills the Giants because they have consistently fielded a pretty damn good defense...and are perennial pre season favorites in the overhyped perportedly uber talented NFCE.
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    Eh; we disagree about Eli. He made some unbelievable plays in that CG against GB, in one of the coldest games in history, so I'm not sure what you're referring to there. For the SB, Mike Carey's crew is one of the least penalizing in the NFL, and they called that game consistently. It could have been Ron Winter's crew, in which case they would have called in the grasp, as well as throwing about 15 other flags for various offenses and non-offenses.

    As for the "if" game, any fan can play that all day, with any QB. With Brady, there are plenty - if not for the tuck rule, if his D didn't shut down the greatest show on turf, if not for the botched kickoff against Carolina, if McNabb hadn't been sick, etc.
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    If it weren't for a fluke 4 game run by his team Eli wouldn't be close to considered a top 10 qb right now. Very mediocre #'s for someone who's had pretty quality talent around him.
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