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    Electricity generated from water: BlackLight Power announces breakthrough in energy production

     
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    Problem is always some energy company buying up the patent and ditching it.

    Remember the old rumors of people buying up German WWII patents and shelving the products?
     
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    Sounds very interesting and fantastic at the same time.

    Hadn't heard about this.

    Off to google.

    EDIT - Although my hopes are staying "realistic"; they will probably sell it and the buyer will bury it.

    EDIT2 - Crap. just saw Icy's reply. What he said.
     
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    I had seen their site a couple of years ago. It looks like there is VC money going into the company (a good thing) and they show a picture of a small unit.

    It would be intersting to know how long is the lifespan of the cells and what are the replacement cost of the cells. If they can produce a 1.5KW cell that would be very interesting A couple of those would provide plenty of pwoer for the average house. perhaps make electricy the preferred method for home heating.
     
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    okay just making sure, electricity from water vapor doesn't mean steam power does it? Because we did do that... :D
     
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    I sincerely hope some Hydrino plants spring up all over the world overnight, providing clean energy to billions. Unfortunately, the CQM THEORY has a lot of reality-based critics, and have for years.

    Something to always consider when hearing fluffy silver bullet "breakthrough" for technology that remains in the perpetual test phase:


    The Laws of Thermodynamics.


    What is a simple defintion of the laws of thermodynamics?
    What is a simple defintion of the laws of thermodynamics?

    Thermodynamics is the study of the inter-relation between heat, work and internal energy of a system. The British scientist and author C.P. Snow had an excellent way of remembering the three laws:

    First Law: You cannot win (that is, you cannot get something for nothing, because matter and energy are conserved).

    Second Law: You cannot break even (you cannot return to the same energy state, because there is always an increase in disorder; entropy always increases).

    Third Law: You cannot get out of the game (because absolute zero is unattainable).
     
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    I have no idea how valid this recent breakthrough is, but we need not worry about the laws of thermodynamics. Sure, they're all accurate (hence the name "laws") but they won't get in our way because of the small scales we are working with. If a breakthrough like cold fusion or helium 3 fusion ever came to pass, we would have enough material to power our planet for countless millenia. After all, hydrogen and helium are the most abundant elements in the universe - something like 99.9% of all matter.
     
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    Besides, forget about all this cold fusion nonsense, here's something the PhD.'s at MIT came up with that will benefit us all:

    They created a bottle with an interior surface which is virtually friction free when interacting with liquids. The practical application of this is condiment bottles where the condimints pour like water (but are just as thick when out of the bottle). Seeing is believing, so check out the following video. This video uses regular ketchup, first in a regular bottle then in the new bottle.

    MIT Team Create Ketchup Bottle That Pours Like Milk - YouTube
     
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    There is no way around the Laws, regardless of scale.

    You can't get something for free. Energy can't be created or destroyed, only transferred.
     
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    A link to a physics world blog entry from 2005, it is a bit outdated however it gives an easy to understand explanation of what Mills is claiming and why the 'physics eatablishment' thinks he is wrong.

    Hydrogen result causes controversy - physicsworld.com





    Ultimatly whether Mills is correct or not will be determined by experiment.

    Feynman on Scientific Method. - YouTube

    If you are interested this video (R Feynman) explains it in 1 minute.
     
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    There was an article the other day about generating electricity by putting water under mats in high traffic areas, guess the energy generated by walking across these mats could generate some power.

    Any effort may have to be incremental.. instead of just thinking one answer or thinking big..
     
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    FINALLY!:rocker:
     
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    This is posted on the mens room wall at Facebook and Morgan Stanley.

    I think it's sarcastic, though. :cool:
     
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    You obviously read, but totally didn't understand, my post. The Laws of Thermodynamics which suggest we might run out of fuel are not going to be a concern if one of these futuristic energy sources ever comes to pass.

    It would be like if I had a magic gas pump in my garage that contained 100 billion gallons of gasoline for my personal use. I'd say "I'm set for life!" only to have you reply "No, you might run out someday."

    If one of these futuristic energy sources ever comes to fruition, the amount of energy available on Earth would last until the sun expanded to a red giant and swallowed our planet whole. We may someday run out of fossil fuels, but we're not going to run out of matter.
     

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