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  1. Harry Boy

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    He's gone the rioters won, the Muslim Brotherhood Won.....

    Hello Israel "Load Your Guns and Get Ready"
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    Mubarak stood down when the Egyptian people stood up.
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    The military are now in charge. How will they transition to new rule? Will the military rule until there are new elections? Will they draft a new constitution? Will there be civil order during the transition, or will the many factions begin to fight?

    Mubarak resigns, hands power to military - Yahoo! News
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    It's a good thing to get rid of dictators and the people have won here but something I read this morning makes this all a little scary, the Little Iranian Creep, Armididdyjazian or whatever his name is supports the rioters.....:confused:
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    If this littel bastard supports the takeover Israel is in big trouble, Anti Semitism all over the Middle East and also in America's Left Wing White House.


    News:
    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's president said Friday that Egypt's popular uprising shows a new Islamic Middle East is emerging, one that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claims will have no signs of Israel and U.S. "interference."

    My Way News - Ahmadinejad: Egyptian protests herald new Mideast
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    He should have been thrown out first. What a blown opportunity. Not sure why we didn't support the protesters trying to get rid of a theocracy in Iran but backed them in Egypt when getting rid of a secular dictator.
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    It's sort of over.

    Suleiman (whatever people think of him) is still there, and there is no guarantee that we've seen the end of the "Free Officer Republic". Given that Mubarak was considering stepping down this year already, this move could just signal that his timetables have changed, and that the NDP may still be ruling Egypt at the end of the day. However, the effects of the people's protests have gone farther, faster than I think anyone really expected. If this is the end of the NDP, we still have no idea what is coming next. This story is still developing, in my opinion.
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    Suleiman ?

    Isn't she the Octomom?

    seems like a poor choice to me....
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    Ha!
    Your post sounds like the exact position and tone that FOX is taking right now. They keep dragging out the former ambassador of Israel and other neocon right wingers with British accents crying horror and some clown just declared that this overthrow of a brutal and fascist dictator is "the beginning of the collapse of the American Middle East" and that Obama has failed to orchestrate a slow transition and that we are "impotent in the Middle East" and that we have "lost Turkey". Now the clown is decrying the female genital mutilation rate as 90% in Egypt and that women have no rights...as if the situation was different in December of 2010. What morons!

    Poor despotic kings and dictators. Can't find no love from Obama.

    LMFAO!:rofl:
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    Except for the one in Iran.

    :D
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    A delicate situation at the moment with this obvious HUGE power vacuum. Let's hope there is genuine democratic wisdom at the core in that populace. The Muslim extremists likely are licking their chops.
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    Interesting comments..

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/html/pdf/pollock-Egyptpoll.pdf

    Not sure what folks wanted the US to do, we have had a history of backing crooked politicians in the mideast and to do so will only alienate us more..
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    Everyone keeps talking about what the US should do in Egypt to help them become democratic...
    The US? Why the US? Why doesn't Israel seize the moment and make the first overtures to the Egyptian people and bring their advisors as an offering of continued peace? There may never be a better time for Israel to make this move.
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    That is a really intriguing idea.

    Nikolai, what are the chances of that?
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    Could not agree more.. but doubt, it will happen.
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    I am sorry for stepping on Nikolai here but:
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    This isn't necessarily a glimpse into their future, but its interesting to read who is really organizing this whole revolution...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/10/world/middleeast/10youth.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp

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    Shirtsleeve is pretty much spot on. The time for Israel to reach out, if there ever was a time, was years ago. However, among Arabs sampled in numerous foreign polls, Egyptians hate the Israelis more than almost any other Arab nationality, and their dislike of the Israelis has only increased. The best case scenario for Egypt-Israeli relations probably involves preserving the status quo, unfortunately.

    Certain elements of that WINEP poll are pretty much spot on. This isn't an Islamic uprising; the Brotherhood didn't instigate it, nor are they driving it. That doesn't mean, however, that they still couldn't wield significant influence on a new government, if one is forthcoming. I disagree with the notion that the Brotherhood has such little support among Egyptians; that's simply untrue. Of course, I would definitely contend with the poll's findings regarding the Egyptian opinion of Israel.

    Moussa, unsurprisingly, leads the opinion polls for the next president, but Mubarak is #2. El-Baradei, the darling of the US media, languishes near the bottom, which is reflective of his popularity in Egypt. I'm glad that much is being put out there. He is not the answer to the power vacuum in Egypt.

    I disagree that this poll is representative. Only 343 people being polled does not give sufficient data for a nation with a population of around 80 million people. Further complicating the issue is that it is a phone poll, meaning that a large subsection of Egyptian society that does not have landlines or mobile phones were no represented in this poll. What you're seeing here is a snapshot of the upper middle class here (as it happens, many of these views have been generally associated with the upper middle class), not necessarily an accurate view of the perceptions of the average Egyptian.
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    She would be fine ... the military is going to run the country anyways.

    President - Vice president .... merely puppets from now on.
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    Good idea, Obama should jump right on this plan.

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