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    #87 Jersey

    Advantage Obama and one more reason to run on his record and tone down the dirt throwing.
    IMO if Obama had worked more on his companies that produce in America promise this election would be a slam dunk for him.

    In swing states, economies mostly looking up | McClatchy

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    So in the article the 'proof' that the economy was doing better was temp jobs'?

    Really? the jobs being according the the Non Farm Payroll report have an unusually high number of part time jobs.

    Wake my up when the un/under employed number goes below 15%.

    Great example of media spin being passed off as news.
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    #87 Jersey

    PF13 ... IMO the article is a good one in that let's face it ... the election boils down to the swing states. If the economy is good in a few crucial ones that helps tilt the results to Obama. My state RI it doesn't matter how bad we are ... Obama gets our electorals and there's other states like mine.
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    That is correct, there are states in play.

    I have DTV with the NY Metro package, I am getting Obama and Romney ads which is surprising. During the 2008 campaign we got nothing in the way of ads locally (I had cable them).

    I would love to know if Obama and Romney are making local buys. IF. they are needing to make local ad buys in NJ NY and CT Obama is in real trouble.

    I would love to know if people with cable in the Tri State area are seeing cloal ads for Romney or Obama?

    The NY market is very expensive to advertise in.
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    #87 Jersey

    Make sure you check out what party affiliation the goveners of those states are.
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    Does party affiliation make them less of a swing state???

    Some things are what they are...
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    #87 Jersey

    Re: Economies Up in Swing States

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    So you cannot answer the question... and instead rinse, repeat...

    Does party affiliation make them less of a swing state???
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    #87 Jersey

    The reason the economies are up in the swing states are because of Republican governors.Ohio,Va, Iowa,Wisconsin Fla.
    They've proved to business they will not tax them to the stone age.
    Business is up.
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    #87 Jersey

    Rhode Island has had many republican governors and still is a heavily voting democratic state ... one has nothing to do with the other.
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    #87 Jersey

    The economies are up in state like Wisconsin and Ohio because of the intially unpopular policys of those republican governors in those states.Also those states had at least and even amount of Republican legislatures to pass those policys. A state like RI or Ma. will get the odd republican governor but will have to deal with 90% dem legislatures.
    Conversely take a look at states like Cal and Ill. democrats raise taxes, cities go banrupt and business and people with money run from the state.
    Their solution? Raise taxes.
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    Righhhht. Check out the governors' enlightened policies...

    Gov. McDonnell seeks stimulus money, despite earlier criticism

    This region's doing well, ye of little facts, because this area holds its own relatively well in down times, usually. Since it's also reaping its part of the vastly expanded security state bonanza, Virginia will almost certainly continue to do well. Throw in a massive concentration of federal money in the main Atlantic port and ship yard for the Navy, Va Beach/Hampton/Norfolk... and a cluster of other installations of all services radiating from Washington... and you begin to get an idea of why Virginia does well when the private sector sees hard times. It's perfectly positioned to absorb some of that impact.

    Now, throw in a healthy stimulus check or twenty, and it's pretty much a no-brainer that VA was going to recover.

    You won't see your heroes with the fake econ props actually turning down stimulus money, and the ones in the midwest also benefitted from the rebounding of Detroit, due to federal intervention.

    In any event, it's easier to get someone in a worse-off state to vote idiotically against his own interest, that is to say, Republican. Since these are less bad-off states, it'll be a heavier lift.

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    #12 Jersey

    So you are saying that it is the governors of a state which cause their economies to either rise or fall? Is that it?
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    #12 Jersey

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    But that does not make them a swing states.. Ohio has been a "swing state" since 1988... Florida and Nevada pretty much the same.

    FYI a swing state is usually a state with less than 5% or less margin of victory..
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    #87 Jersey

    Thats all horsesh!t. Its all relative and who uses the money wisely.

    Like I've said before many times i don't blame anybody who gets welfare, rich, poor, needy or not if the governments giving it away I'm taking it and you would be fool not to.
    The issue a lot of states had was it was a deal they couldn't refuse. They either take it or they get screwed.
    But thanks for making my point.The republican govenors were better stewards of this money other than say California where it is a hackarama cesspool.

    But California going to quit this time they really, really are.
    [​IMG]

    Just one more round of taxes and that'll be it, I promise.
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    #87 Jersey

    I would look at the makeup of a state's legislature before I gave credit to a governor. Rhode Island has had a mostly democratic legislature since forever and look at the crap we're in. States that have more balanced legislatures are ahead of the one party states in reacting to the changes in the economy.

    governors and Presidents get way to much credit and way to much blame.
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    #54 Jersey

    No ads here in CT. When I lived in Virginia, we used to get all kinds of ads. Of course, they are worthless, but it felt nice to know your vote counted.
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