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  1. VJCPatriot

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    So let's have some fun to take our minds off things. Here are the rules.

    We will be using CBS top NFL prospect rankings.
    NFL Draft - 2013 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

    In round 1 you can take anyone at up to the pick number or below.
    In round 2 you can take anyone at up to 5 picks above or below.
    In rounds 3 you can take anyone at up to 10 picks above or below.
    In rounds 4 and later you can take anyone at up to 15 pick above or below.

    You can make up to 3 trades using the NFL trade value chart. Try to be within the trade value or slightly less.

    Draft Countdown - Trade Value Chart

    Have fun and let's see how you draft!

    Here are the Patriots picks:
    1st round #29
    2nd round #59
    3rd round #91
    (later round picks are approximate because comp picks haven't been awarded yet but good enough for this exercise!)
    7th round from Bucs #13 in round 7 #205
    7th round own #29 in round 7 #221

    *Optional - Special just for fun rule! Imagine that the Cleveland Browns have traded the #6 overall pick to the Patriots for Ryan Mallet!! :D

    Patriots 2013 Draft

    Trade - New England trades Ryan Mallett to Cleveland for pick #6

    Round 1

    #6 Star Lotulelei DT 6-3 320 Utah
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    A monster DL to collapse pockets and a future successor to Wilfork. Some compare him to a young Haloti Ngata.

    Trade - New England trades pick #29 to Tennessee for pick #40 and #106 and #137

    Round 2

    #40 Matt Elam S 5-10 202 Florida
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    A ballhawking safety for the secondary.

    #59 Markus Wheaton WR 5-11 183 Oregon State
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    A speedster WR to stretch the field. Passed Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmanzedah as the school's most productive wideout ever.

    Round 3

    #91 Jelani Jenkins LB 6-0 237 Florida
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    The Florida connection continues. This time with a pass coverage specialist linebacker to help matchup against the increasing number of athletic tight ends in the NFL.

    Round 4

    #106 Robert Lester S 6-1 212 Alabama
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    Doubling up on a position of need is a typical BB technique. If you strike out on one pick, you can still hit on the other, and if you hit on both you are really set at the position. We've hit the Alabama football factory before as seen in Hightower.

    Round 5

    #137 Zac Dysert QB 6-3 224 Miami (Ohio)
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    Now that Mallet is leaving town, the Pats need a new QB prospect to groom. This young passer has shown steady improvement in each of his seasons as a starter.

    Round 7

    #205 Micah Hyde CB 6-0 196 Iowa
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    A 4 year corner who was the leader of his defense. Has good size for the position and added versatility via special teams. Could evolve into a solid nickel corner for the Pats.

    #221 Brandon Kaufman WR 6-4 214 Eastern Washington
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    A big tall target who was a man amongst boys at Eastern Washington. Kaufman hopes to follow the footsteps of alumni Taiwan Jones and Matt Johnson to success at the NFL level. Kaufman's 1,850 yard 16 TD 19.9 ypc senior season screams big play threat.


    Hope you enjoyed reading this early mock attempt! Now let's see yours!
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    No trades. Hope we keep Talib and Welker. Sign a JAG to backup Cannon at RT.

    1. De'Andre Hopkins - WR - Clemson - Need that big target don't we?
    2. Arthur Brown - OLB - Kansas St - A lb who can cover a back/te.
    3. Tank Carradine - DE - Florida St - Can never have enough pass rushers
    7. Josh Johnson - CB - Purdue - Maybe replace Arrington.
    7. Cooper Taylor - SS - Richmond - Maybe replace Chung.
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    In the past the rule has always been that for round 1 you could take someone up to 3 picks earlier than the allotted draft slot, and in later rounds up to 5 picks. That allows for some slippage. I'm going to go by that rule. Also, I think that the Mallett trade fantasy is just a fantasy right now, so it's silly to design mocks based around it. If something becomes more than a fantasy, I'll include it. JMHO.

    Assumptions:

    1. Wes Welker and Sebastian Vollmer walk in FA.
    2. The Pats re-sign UFA CB Aqib Talib, WR/KR Julian Edelman, CB Kyle Arrington and OG Donald Thomas. They re-sign RFA LB Dane Fletcher and ERFA Jake Ballard. I'm not sure about Danny Woodhead or Michael Hoomanawanui right now - depends on the money situation.
    3. The Pats sign UFA S Kenny Phillips (NY Giants).

    Mock:

    28. Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St. 6'3" 320#. Currently NFL DraftScout #28.

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    Super Beast!
    Hankins is a top 5-10 talent, who slips because of concerns about "inconsistency". Just like Vince Wilfork slipped in 2004. With his connections to Urban Meyer and Mike Vrabel, BB will be all over this kid and will have details that no one else will have. I think he would jump at the chance to add a true blue chip talent to the DL, and an eventual successor to Wilfork. Hankins has the athleticism to play multiple positions in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, including outside. With the addition of Armond Armstead, he would give the Pats the dominant DL they haven't had since 2008. Armstead-Wilfork-Hankins-Jones would be beastly, and if Jones stands up we instantly convert to a 3-4. Hankins has played outside in a 3-4 and has the athleticism to do it. This is just too good a value to pass up.

    Note: What I really want is to pick up both Hankins and DJ Fluker (NFL DraftScout #29), but without something like the Mallett trade there's no way we could do it. I'd be in Seventh Heaven if we could pull that off - it would really make us much more physical on both lines.

    59. Dallas Thomas, OL, Tennessee. 6'5" 308#. Currently NFL DraftScout #56.

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    Beast!
    Since I'm not including the Mallett trade and can't swing both Hankins and Fluker, I go for the next best thing. Thomas has versatility at both tackle and guard, and could probably step in immediately at either position, giving the Pats some flexibility at the RT position along with Marcus Cannon. He's a potential 1st round value that slips. I would have liked to get Barrett Jones (NFL DraftScout #51), but again, without much draft picks or resources to move around with trade ups, I settled for getting another stud in Thomas.

    It's tough to pass up WR options like Quinton Patton (55), Justin Hunter (65) and Da'Rick Rogers (74), but I'm a firm believer in building around the trenches, and added 2 talents like Johnathan Hankins and Dallas Thomas would be too good to pass up. WRs can be addressed later.

    91. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas. 5'9" 179#. Currently NFL DraftScout #87.

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    Greyhound!
    A world class sprinter and 2012 Olympian in the long jump, Goodwin showed surprising WR skills including good route running and excellent hands at the Senior Bowl. He would combine with Jeff Demps to provide an amazing speed package that would be very difficult to defend, with the ability to take it to the house at any time.

    *** Trade: The Pats trade Daniel Fells to Chicago for #149 overall. The Bears need TE help, and Fells is a good blocker who could help with their weak OL. The Pats dump Fells' salary.

    146. Chris Harper, WR, Kansas St. 6'1" 228#. Currently NFL DraftScout #144.

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    Sleeper Stud Horse!
    Harper is an Anquan Bolden/Chris Carter kind of physical WR who can dish out some punishment to DBs and move the chains, but who has surprising speed and deceptive breakaway capability. He is a terrific blocker. Where Goodwin adds speed and playmaking, Harper adds physicality to the WR position.

    *** Trade: New England trades S Steve Gregory to Detroit for #161 and a conditional 2014 pick. With Kenny Phillips signed and Tavon Wilson and Nate Ebner hopefully making a leap, Gregory is expendable. The Pats dump his salary. With Louis Delmas a FA (and always injured even if they keep him) Detroit needs FS depth, and gets a veteran for an early 6th round pick.

    161. Kyle Juszczyk, FB/H-Back, Harvard. 6'1" 248#. Currently NFL DraftScout #158.

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    Sleeper Stud Horse!
    Juszczyk is a big dude who can clear out the pile as a blocking fullback but who also has soft hands and is a nice receiver out of the backfield, or in motion. There are rumors he may have close to 4.5 speed, and he could be a good depth option as a backup "move TE" given that Aaron Hernandez has yet to play a full 16 game season. He would help the running game in short yardage situations and running inside against tough lines, and provide depth at TE.

    *** Trade: NE trades #202, 219 and a 2014 6th round pick to Tampa Bay for #171.

    171. Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU. 5'9" 178#. Currently NFL DraftScout #181.

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    Fallen Beast!
    The Pats trade up to get the "Honey Badger", who will add toughness and attitude to the secondary along with Talib and Alfonzo Dennard. He can play a nickel/dime slot CB role, and will excel on STs. Talib, Dennard, Dowling, Arrington and Mathieu would be a very good CB group. McCourty, Phillips, Wilson and Ebner would be a very good safety group.

    Mock Variant:

    If you accept a Ryan Mallett trade (not for #6, IMHO, but maybe for a 1st round pick) then I pick up DJ Fluker at #29, and get Justin Hunter at #59 (currently NFL DraftScout #65). With Lloyd, Hunter, Edelman, Goodwin and Harper the Pats could have a true "wide receiver by committee" (WRBC) approach like they used to, instead of targeting almost half of all pass attempts at 2 receivers (304/641 pass attempts in 2012 went to either Welker or Lloyd). Add in the TEs, a FB/H-Back like Juszczyk, and more use of the RBs, and the offense could be much more diverse, and more physical than at any time since 2004.
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    I know next to nothing about the incoming rookies, so I'm tempted to go with whatever Mayo says. However, I've got a different set of assumptions of what the Patriots do in free agency, so things are a bit different here.

    Key Departures: Wes Welker, Aqib Talib, Deion Branch, Trevor Scott

    Key Re-signs: Sebastian Vollmer, Danny Woodhead, Julian Edelman, Michael Hoomanawanui, Kyle Arrington

    Key Outside Signings: WR Danny Amendola, CB Sean Smith, S Ed Reed, DT Mike DeVito

    Draft Trades: Pick #29 to Buffalo (Nassib) for #41, #164, and a 2014 2nd rounder.
    TE Daniel Fells to Chicago. Good idea from Mayo, but I don't think the return will be as good. Maybe a 6th ~#175
    OL Brian Waters to Dallas for #173.

    On the reset, The Pats get 2/41, 2/59, 3/91, 6/164, 6/173, 6/175, 7/205, and 7/221. I can see them trading two sixths for a fifth, but I'm not going to anticipate that. My general impression is that next years draft will be much better than this years. I wanted to try to pick up another 1st for 2014, but couldn't see it. Buffalo's 2nd should be pretty good though.

    2/41 Jordan Poyer CB Oregon St
    2/59 Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
    3/91 Justin Pugh T/G Syracuse
    6/164 Lerentee McCree LB Florida
    6/173 Josh Boyd DT Mississippi St
    6/175 Josh Boyce WR TCU
    7/205 Braden Brown OT BYU
    7/221 Cooper Taylor S Richmond

    I knew nothing about the 6th and 7th rounders an hour ago, but they've been productive at competitive schools and should provide some roster/practice squad depth. Except Taylor. I just like his measurables, and he could be a ST demon and a hammer on the back end. Look at that lineup of first names. If they don't make the team, they can put together the largest boy band in history.
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    Im gonna be slightly unrealistic here and anticipate some trades.

    Ryan Mallett for the Browns 2014 1st and 2013 4th (101
    Daniel Fells to the Bears for their 6th round pick 178
    Brian Waters to the cowboys for 175
    Trade 91 to TB Bucs for 109, 140 and 173
    Then trade 175 and 221 to Detroit for 163

    Patriots now have 29, 59, 101, 109, 163, 173, 178 and 205

    1st round pick 29: Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State
    CBSSports.com rankings #28
    Too great of a talent to pass up on plus we have extra information

    2nd round pick 59: Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech
    CBSSport.com ranking 55
    My 2013 Binky Versatile, can be a deep threat, good blocking WR

    4th round pick 101 Jonathan Cyprien SS FIU
    CBSSport.com ranking #102
    rose a lot because of the senior bowl, hard hitting, would still allow us to sign someone like Ed Reed to help mentor

    4th round pick 109 Brian Winters OG Kent State
    CBSSport.com ranking #109
    versatile and would be a great pick here
    Alternate picks David Quessenberry OT San Jose State and Terron Armstead OT

    6th round pick 163 Nick Kasa TE Colorado/ Connor Vernon WR Duke/Kyle Juscyzk Harvard
    CBSSports.com ranking 158-162
    Couldn't choose between the 3 any of them would be great

    6th round pick 173 Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU
    CBSSports.com ranking #181
    Physical play making cornerback

    6th round pick 178 Josh Boyd DT Miss St/ Montori Hughes DT Tennesee martin/William Campbell DT Michigan
    CBSSports.com ranking #194, #182, #214 respectively
    another DT that all have great potential that have slipped

    7th round pick 205 Joe Kruger DE Utah
    CBSSport.com ranking #268
    Pass rusher has a lot of potential nicknamed sasquatch

    UDFA
    All lower than 254 on CBSSports.com

    Ray Ray armstrong S Miami
    Kapron Lewis Moore DT Notre Dame
    Devonte Christopher WR Utah
    Levine Toilolo TE Stanford
    Blaize Foltz OG TCU
    Nick Florence QB Baylor
    Nigel Malone CB K State
    Quanterus Smith DE WKU
    Ty Powell OLB Harding
    Josh Boyett FS Oregon
    Kenny Tate OLD Maryland
    Mike Catapano DE Princeton
    Melvin White CB LA Lafayette
    Jake Knott OLB Iowa State
    Dexter Mccoil FS Tulsa
    Brandon Moore Texas DT
    Quinton Dial DE Alabama
    Chad Bumphis WR Miss St
    Carson Tinker LS Alabama
    Caraun Reed DT/DE Princeton
    Dave Kruger DT Utah
    Jordan Campbell OLB New Mexico Highlands
    DJ Hayden CB Houston
    Sheldon Price CB UCLA
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    Patriots 2013 Draft

    Trade - New England trades Ryan Mallett to Cleveland for pick #6

    Round 1

    #6 Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

    Trade - New England trades pick #29 to Tennessee for pick #40 and #106 and #137

    Round 2

    #40 Matt Elam, S, Florida

    #59 Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

    Round 3

    #91 Jelani Jenkins, LB, Florida

    Round 4

    #106 Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut

    Trade - New England trades #137 to Chiefs for #161 and #193

    Round 6

    #161 Kyle Juszczyk, FB, Harvard

    Round 7

    #193 Tyrann Mathieu, CB, formerly of LSU

    #205 Kapron Lewis-Moore, DT, Notre Dame

    #221 Dexter McCoil, S, Tulsa

    UDFA

    Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
    Trey Wilson, CB, Vanderbilt
    Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, formerly of Miami
    Marcus Cromartie, CB, Wisconsin
    Tom Wort, ILB, Oklahoma
    John Wetzel, OT, Boston College
    Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA
    Rontez Miles, S, California (PA)
    MarQueis Gray, QB/WR, Minnesota
    Luke Tasker, WR, Cornell
    Timothy Wright, WR, Rutgers
    Joe Kruger, DE, Utah
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    1st round #29 Hankins DT OSU
    2nd round #59 Patton WR LA Tech
    3rd round #91 Geathers NT Georgia
    7th round from Bucs #13 in round 7 #205 Smith CB Georgia
    7th round own #29 in round 7 #221 Uzzi OG Georgia

    Ya I like the Bull Dogs and my off season analysis has just begun so I'll roll with players I've seen more of.
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    I would literally cry tears of joy if this exact mock came to light. While I'm not as high as most are about Hankins, he is a good player and the Vrable / Meyer connection angle is also not something I thought about.
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    All fantasy with my 2nd mock with the Mallett Trade

    Without the Mallett Trade:

    #29 Trade for #45 and #77

    #45 Margus Hunt DE, SMU
    This pick is on pure potential. The guy plays high at times and sometimes OL get under him. But the reality is they just don't make many like him and i am trusting out Coaches on this one.

    #77 and #91 traded for number #56 and #216

    #56 Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana


    Young WR for a team desperately in need of one. I know we can do without them but taking a shot and maybe getting a Torey Smith type on the outside is worth it in my opinion.

    #59 Dallas Thomas, OL, Tennessee

    If Vollmer Leaves like i suspect he may (basically if someone pays him what a healthy him is worth) then Thomas can duke it out with Cannon for the RT possition

    #205 Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU

    Fallen Angel hopefully we strike gold again like Hernandez.

    #221 Terrence Brown CB Stanford
    Hopefully can fight it out with Mathieu, Arrington and our other young DB's for the slot position.


    #6 Traded for #13 and #45
    #13 #205 traded for #16 and # 80

    Leaving us with:

    #16 Ezekiel Ansah DE
    Terrific talent and measurables. He should be able to help our 3rd down pass rush straight away and hopefully pull a Chandler Jones and surprise us all and start.

    #29 D.J Fluker OT/OG
    Adds some depth and Talent to the OT/OG position. If Vollmer goes then he can duke it out with Cannon for the RT possition.

    #45 Margus Hunt DE
    I am doubling up on the DE (Raw) position and hoping to strike some gold. I know it's a lot of draft capital to be throwing at one position but i believe DE and sub rush DE has become one of the most important positions in this passing league. If both Ziggy, Ansah, Jones and Hunt work out... i am sure it is a problem BB wouldn't mind having. Worst case scenario this guy kills some people on Special teams.

    #59 and #91 for #51 and #115

    #52 Barrett Jones C/G/T Alabama

    Don't think i'd be able to get him here but these are the rankings. Slight trade up to get a guy who really completes the Depth chart for the pats OL. Solder, Mankins, Wedel, Connoly, Fluker, Cannon and Jones is a very very talented young group.

    #80 Kenny Stills WR

    Young dynamic body to add to our WR corp. I don't know what will happen this year but a Stills could help us.

    #115 Tavarres King WR

    Doubling up again at a position and hopefully one of the 2 will emerge. King had some good practices at the senior bowl from reports and hopefully can add some play making ability at WR if Wes goes.

    #205 Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU

    Fallen Angel hopefully we strike gold again like Hernandez.

    #221 Terrence Brown CB Stanford
    Hopefully can fight it out with Mathieu, Arrington and our other young DB's for the slot position.

    In this 2nd mock i have basically just doubled up at the positions i wanted with a tonne of talent and am hoping 1 of the 2 picks stick (except for the 1st round where i think they should really play straight away)
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    great mock id love if that happened but i think 45 would be better used on elam or reid at S but id be fine with hunt as well
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    Sharrif Floyd would be a great alternative at DT, but right now he's projected to go higher (currently #17 on NFL DraftScout; Scott Pioli thinks he could be a top 10 pick). But that's a recent change, and it could change again. Either one would work for me.
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    I select my just for fun rule that the pats trade Tom Brady to the Browns for 2013 1st rd, 2013 3rd rd, 2014 1st rd, 2014 2nd rd, QB colt mccoy, and WR josh gordon.

    the pats trade the #6 to the bears for their #20, #50, and 2014 1st (or whatever translates in trade values)....the bears need OT eric fisher


    welker is gone

    talib,OG thomas return.

    FA signings: S Jarius Byrd, WR Brian Hartline

    so now, they have:
    #20 - NT - Jessie Williams (alabama)
    #29 - the pats trade #29 to the cardinals for #38 and #100
    #38 - WR - DeAndre Hopkins (clemson)
    #50 - FS - Eric Reid (lsu)
    #59 - OT - Dallas Thomas (tenn)
    #68 - CB - David Amerson (nc st)
    #91 - ILB - Nico Johnson (ala)
    #100 - WR - Ryan Swope
    #205 - OT - Manse Foketi (wt am)
    #221 - SS Ray Ray Armstrong (mia)

    in 2014, they have 2 1sts and 2 2nds

    QB - mallett, mccoy....we could even bring back hoyer...still have kafka
    RB - ridley, vereen, bolden, demps, develin
    TE - gronk, ballard, hernandez,hooman
    WR - lloyd(maybe), gordon, hartline, hopkins, swope, slater
    OL - solder, mankins, wendell, connolly, cannon, thomas, thomas, foketi
    DT - wilfork, armstead, williams, deaderick
    DE - ninko, jones, francis, bequette, benard
    LB - mayo, hightower, johnson, spikes, fletcher
    CB - talib, dennard, dowling, amerson, mccourty
    S - byrd, (mccourty), wilson, reid, armstrong

    maybe replace gostkowski
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    No trades yet. I'll look at those later as we get closer.

    1st round #29 Montgomery DE LSU
    2nd round #59 Long OT Oregon
    3rd round #91 Bailey WR WVU
    7th round from Bucs Miles S California (PA)
    7th round own Benavides C Louisville
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    Well, trading Brady would save $8 million in salary cap room.

    And I imagine that if you're not a season-ticket holder already, you'd be able to get them this season. :eek: Of course, Boston would need to post round-the-clock guards on the Tobin.
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    why? the place wasn't sold out for the 6 years before brady started? no 'in BB we trust?'

    if that's the case, then they're going to lose those fans in 2 years anyway
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    It's more the how of Brady's exit in your scenario than the fact that he is.

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