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    Well, looks like he's here to stay. ;)
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    Good to see the team reached into their pockets and paid him.

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    Much of the discussion about Harmon has been around if the Pats reached too high for him, could they have picked him up later or after the draft, etc.

    That got me thinking a little bit (a rarity) -- what does picking a player higher than predicted mean to the player? It's got to send a message of confidence, i.e. "we're committed to you for the long term", "breathe and focus on the big picture and not the day-to-day".

    Just throwing this out there, but maybe the rap on Harmon was that he's a smart and heady player, but loses focus when looking over his shoulder on the depth chart. People say that painful QB competition at Michigan made Brady the fighter he is; that may not be the case for others.

    Maybe Harmon has the kind of value system where if you make a big leap of faith on his behalf, he's the kind of guy who will throw himself on a hand grenade for you later. A Bruschi-esque lifer for the Pats. Maybe he takes a "hometown" discount for the Pats down the road knowing that no one else would have given him such a strong start.

    In fairness, it's the NFL -- everybody is at risk of losing their job anytime, and everybody has to wear their big-boy pants and not get coddled. That said, I wonder if there is a psychological element behind the Patriots draft board, where they are actually trying to match the pick to the player's appreciation/personality?

    "Wasting" a 3rd round pick on a guy who appreciates it for life may be more valuable to the team over the long term, than grabbing him "efficiently" as a free agent.
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    This presumes he isn't a dumpster fire of an NFL player, which would be rare for a defensive back drafted by the Patriots in recent years.
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    A picked signed is a pick signed. This is good news.
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    Let's hope he pulls a 'Ridley' on the fanbase. Then they'll be all like - yeah, I knew he had what it takes from the beginning! can u say champ-een-shup play-ah!!? *fist bump*
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    What is pulling a Ridley? :confused:
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    He's the very last guy who should or, I guess, would. :)
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    Ridley was an often-criticized third round pick that has worked out pretty darn well.
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    You must have very long arms from all that reaching. I particularly loved this gem...."they are actually trying to match the pick to the player's appreciation/personality? "
    I can hear BB now..."Skill be damned, get me Rudy."
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    Well, for starters, it's much better than pulling a Vereen.. ;)
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    To this day, I'm not sure why people criticized the Ridley pick. IMO, I thought the Vereen pick was worse.
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    I don't know why everybody is so critical of Vereen, he was stuck behind Ridley and Woodhead on the depth chart, and the year before he was a rookie and BJGE was still on the team.
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    I was critical of him due to the fact that I thought he was picked a little too high on top of the fact that I felt a RB like Ridley was exactly what we needed at the time, so after the Ridley selection, the Vereen one looked even worse to me. I'm still looking to be proven wrong and one playoff game plus a blown coverage in one regular season game hasn't moved me off my original assertion as of yet.
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    Without Vereen we likely lose that playoff game, and I wouldn't necessarily call that blown coverage, it was just a physical mismatch between a fast RB and a LB that was slower.
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    Except for the fact that Vereen was taken ahead of Ridley. Trying to change history on us?
    One of the actual criticisms at the time was that Ridley was NOT NEEDED after Vereen was taken.
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    A RB in the 3rd when you've already addressed the position in the 2nd? And he was supposed to be a 5th-rounder at best! A huge reach and a huge waste of draft capital. :mad::mad::mad:

    (I wasn't immune to this sentiment myself.)
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    The 'captain' was completely apoplectic about wasting a 3rd round pick on an unecessary RB like Ridley. The way he complained you would think he was talking about Tavon Wilson or Duran Harmon. I hope the careers of Tavon and Duran mirror Ridley's route.
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    I don't think we lose that game without his contributions. But, either way, you should probably change that to "without Brady". That sideline thrown was a lazer and a thing of beauty in spite of coverage that was otherwise tight. As for the blown coverage, the LB was very far out of position, slower or not.

    You should probably re-read my post since you very clearly didn't understand it.

    I don't mind a reach that's one or two rounds away if the team really likes the guy. Not to re-hash this, but it's the 4-5 rounds reaches that bother me. So Ridley didn't bother me at the time. Vereen did. For one, I don't think he was the type of RB we needed. For another, I thought that Ridley was. Finally, I actually watched a good amount of Ridley in college (being the avid SEC fan I am), and that's yet another reason I didn't mind the pick.
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