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dump all incumbents?

Poll closed Aug 10, 2011.
  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. IllegalContact

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    would you bilaterally agree to dump ALL incumbents and keep doing so until a government of both left and right that will work together to best fulfill the desires of the country's voters?

    wwould we be better off if we simply replaced everyone?
     
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    Good God Yes, dump them, all of them.
     
  3. wistahpatsfan

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    #75 Jersey

    Easy solution to a complex problem. It won't happen anyway until we get some limits on how these campaigns are funded which, of course, will never happen as long as politicians are having their pockets lined by a few special interests.

    Catch-22.

    As Jesse Jackson said: "The question is moot!"

    http://72.167.34.137/question-is-moot.html
     
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    If there was equal footing on campaign contributions would be inclined to say yes.. but as of right now these positions go to the person who follows along the money trail. So nothing will change, until the whole system changes..

    We have all witnessed new and refreshing folks going to DC only to get the famous Beltway Flu.. it infects the whole body especially the mind. Characterized by good, honest folks who go bad with all of the money and power.
     
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    Most of my votes are against the incumbent. Pretty sure it doesn't accomplish much.

    Would it if everybody did the same? I guess there's a slight chance, but I'm not optimistic.
     
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    at the rate the players change, of course, but say come 2012, half of all incumbents are removed........the other half will start singing a different tune.......

    sufficient change every election should be needed in order to keep the whole bunch of 'em in line.
     
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    These are not preschoolers, the only thing that keeps them in their own line are the Lobbyists Money..

    Adults should not rely on external controls..
     
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    Nope. I understand the frustration, but I'm flat out against any approach to voting that dumbs everything down and removes thinking. We should hold incumbents accountable, yes; and it may be that most (or all) deserve to be ousted. But saying flat out without investigating to vote against all of them does the system of this country a disservice.
     
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    there's only one way to keep them accountable.......and its the very real threat of not being reelected.

    if every single incumbent was automatically replaced by the guy they are running against, we would be better off
     
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    You obviously do not understand power and how this country works, there are very powerful folks who are invested in the status quo.. and they pretty much rule everything.

    There are anomalies, but nothing really significant change.. do not be surprised if they become players in this Tea Party Stuff as they have effected their investments quite a bit.

    They backed many of them last time around, and so far it has backfired and their portfolios are taking big hits today.. this is one of the reasons why the military will never be signficantly downsized or we will drawdown from the 700+ bases on foreign soil.
     
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    New people work harder to please the people, the old grinning politicians who have been in there for years work for themselves, they sh!t on the people, then, they grin.

    It has always amazed me at what fools some well educated people can be, why can't people see what these filthy f-cking snake oil bastards are doing to this country (including the poster boy in the white house)

    :mad:
     
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    #75 Jersey

    I thought new people work hard to please the people. Do you think Obama has been president for a long time or something? Wasn't the knock on him that he was too inexperienced?
     
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    Good point.. the flip flopping continues.
     
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    His arrogance won't let him work for the people, hasn't he been in politics for a while, also isn't he a product of Jeremiah Wrights Baptist Church, he's a closet God Man.
     
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    sounds like an excuse.......

    military spending steadily declined from 1986 until 2002........something like 30%

    but its funny........OBL was hoping that the attacks on 9/11/2001 would ruin the US economy.......its taking much longer than he hoped, but he might be right
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Isn't blindly dumping them all just as stupid as blindly reelecting them all?

    Maybe just being a little more selective might work.
     
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    Very good question. I voted yes, and that's not only because of the Tea Partiers, but also because of Obama's muddled centrist approach to the economic crisis.
     
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    It is not an excuse, it is how this country has worked for a long time.. if you get a chance revisit the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower he was quite prophetic on this subject...

    Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

    You do not understand where the power lies in this country, there are shotcallers who dictate many of the things that have happened.. not everything, but many things.

    C. Wright Mills was an early influence and what he wrote many years ago resonates today..

    The Higher Circles from the book The Power Elite

     
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