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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    Again, you may not agree with the methodology, but do you agree with the picks?

    1. Jared Odrick, 3-4 DE, Penn State
    The Big Ten's defensive player of the year ends up in New England, where he'll be tasked with rotating at DE opposite Ty Warren. Odrick has the size necessary for the position and an unrivaled passion for the game.

    2 (TEN). George Selvie, 3-4 OLB, South Florida (previously Sean Lee)
    A down senior season - after back-to-back All-American campaigns - has dropped Selvie's stock a bit. However, since he can play 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB, versatility is on his side. For the Pats Selvie would become an edge rusher, something he could excel at.

    2 (JAX). Jahvid Best, RB, California
    Best would be an absolute steal here for the Pats and would create competition in a loaded, yet unspectacular, pack of backs. Best's explosiveness makes him a return threat too.

    2. Anthony McCoy, TE, USC (previously Ciron Black)
    This CMD has McCoy going at a more appropriate area to a more TE-needy team. The Pats have a whole lot of nothing at the position, as Watson has been unable to capitalize on early career success and the backups are all journeyman (though New England likes those players). With the depth, McCoy can sit and develop. He has great potential.

    4. Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame (previously Garrett Graham)
    [no explanation given]
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    I could be happy on that. I'm not sure if Selvie has the speed necessary, at 42, he's proably not a bad pick.
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    I'd like to see who else was available. I love the Odrick, Best and Young picks, but much prefer someone else to Selvie, and if we take a TE in the second round I'd rather it be Hernandez who looks a proper threat in the passing game.
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    Not happy at all.
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    That's a horrible draft.
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    1. I would have taken Jerry hughes who was still on the board.

    2a Navarro Bowman

    2b Trevard Lindley

    2c Ryan Matthews
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    1/13 update.

    1. Carlos Dunlap, 3-4 DE, Florida (previously Jared Odrick)
    Dunlap has Top 10 talent but character concerns and work ethic issues may cause him to drop to the late-1st or early-2nd round. The Pats must find a suitable replacement for Richard Seymour, since the rotation opposite Ty Warren was unspectacular in 2009.

    2 (JAX). George Selvie, 3-4 OLB, South Florida
    A down senior season - after back-to-back All-American campaigns - has dropped Selvie's stock a bit. However, since he can play 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB, versatility is on his side. For the Pats Selvie would become an edge rusher, something he could excel at.

    2 (TEN). Jahvid Best, RB, California
    The change of pace back Best may never be a feature guy in the NFL . . . or he could be the next Chris Johnson. He has great breakaway speed and having him in a deep backfield in New England would add another dimension to the explosive (if inconsistent) offense.

    2. Anthony McCoy, TE, USC
    A TE is going to be a priority for the Pats should they let their current stable walk as FAs. McCoy - who'd need time to develop - could become a solid threat in the passing game.

    4. Kristopher O'Dowd, OC, USC (previously Sam Young)
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    yuck on the update.


    Mccoy is good value best would be good replacement for faulk next year.
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    Hughes with the first rounder
    Pouncey from Florida with the first 2nd rounder
    Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest
    Brian Price UCLA
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    No explanations yet, just picks:

    1. Brandon Graham, 3-4 OLB, Michigan
    2 (JAX). Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
    2 (TEN). Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State
    2. Nate Allen, FS(!), South Florida
    4. Mike Neal, 3-4 DE, Purdue
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    I'd be happy with...

    1. Odrick

    2a. Bowman

    2b. McGhee

    2c. Ciron Black
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    Based on DraftTek's own current Big Board, I'd have to go:

    #22 - Brandon Graham
    #44 - Jordan Shipley (reach)
    #47 - Donovan Warren
    #53 - Dexter McCluster
    (no pick in the 3rd round really hurts us this draft)
    #122 - Dennis Pitta
    (no 5th rounder hurts again)
    #181 -

    Actually, based on the DraftTek rankings, most of the rest of the guys I'd want would still be available in the late 7th round anyway (Mike Kafka, Myron Rolle, Alric Arnett, Andrew Quarless, etc.).

    Obviously, rankings/projected availabilities are radically different on other big boards (e.g., Scout.com has both Brandon Spikes and Brandon Graham still available at #22).

    I usually take the median of several big boards as a shorthand cheat-sheet, but I'm not processing that again till after the Senior Bowl. Then, after the Combine and Free Agency, I'll try to develop a Big Board for each team based on what I perceive to be their needs and tendencies of their personnel decision-makers and go from that.

    So, the above is far from my final answer.
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    Bowman is a 4-3 WLB only. Not a fit.

    McGhee?

    Black doesn't have the mobility the Pats look for in their OT's. He did last year when he was down around 310-315, but he's ballooned and looks a tad cumbersome at the Senior Bowl.
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    1 out of 4 ain't bad.
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    I would pick half of the players they have slotted in the fourth round ahead of the players they have the Patriots selecting in the second round.

    Their consensus loves overrated busts.
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    This ^^^^^^^^
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    I love this draft because Gresham in the second would be the Steal of the Draft IMO.
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    Newest version, posted 2/24.

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    I really like this draft. Would substitute a WR for R. Mathews.....
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    Replace Hernandez with OG Johnson of Alabama and I really like the potential of this draft.
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    Sub oldrick for Dunlap and I love this draft.
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    I just did my own simulation through DraftTek and changed some of the priorities for New England as well as added some lockouts and grabs.

    Here's what it spit out:

    22. Carlos Dunlap DE Florida
    42. Arrelious Benn WR Illinois
    47. Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
    53. Jason Worilds OLB Virginia Tech
    116. Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami
    180. Jonathon Crompton QB Tennessee
    213. Leigh Tiffin K Alabama
    215. Kurt Coleman SS Ohio State

    I'd be happy with this draft through 53, then it goes to hell. One interesting thing to note is Spiller, Kindle, Sapp, Dan Williams, Pierre-Paul and Odrick all go after Dunlap at 22. If their was that much talent on the board at 22, I'd try to make a small trade down. Micah Johnson goes two picks after Sharpton and he'd probably be a better fit as a 3-4 ILB in New England and Arthur Jones was also on the board. At 180, the Pats could have Blair White, recent PatsFans favorite Marcus Easley, Mayo favorite Clifton Geathers or DONALD BUTLER from UW who is somehow still on the board going 202 to Tampa Bay. Not a lot of interesting players left after 213 to replace the Tiffin pick, but I think we can safely say a kicker is not on the agenda.
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    Sharpton's a 4-3 MLB only IMO.
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    If we are getting those 3 guys in the 2nd round I am DEFINITELY trading down in the 1st and picking up an extra 3rd in this year's draft. Unfortunately I don't think it will pan out that perfectly.
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    Here's the latest, posted 3/2/10:

    1. DE/OLB Brandon Graham
    2a. WR Damian Williams
    2b. TE Aaron Hernandez
    2c. DE Alex Carrington
    4. RB Ben Tate

    And now, the :bricks::

    6. QB Jonathan Crompton
    7a. K Leigh Tiffin
    7b. SS Kurt Coleman
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    Ben Tate in the 4th is robbery. I can't see him dropping that far.
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    Cmon you dont honestly expect them to get every pick on the same page as the people who actually follow the team do you? They did good with the first 5 picks thats more than most credible sites.
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    3/9/2010:

    1. back to DE/OLB Carlos Dunlap
    2a. TE Aaron Hernandez
    2b. OLB Koa Misi
    2c. WR Taylor Price*
    4. SS Darrell Stuckey :bricks:
    6. QB John Skelton
    7a. RB Andre Anderson
    7b. K Leigh Tiffin :bricks:

    *Between Hernandez and Price, they have a run on WRs, with Damian Williams (45), Benn (48), and Demaryius Thomas (49) all coming off the board.
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    Here's the 3/30 mock, which is actually halfway decent:

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