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  1. Rob0729

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    Boy we dodged a bullet there. The only worse curse than being on the cover of Madden football is being picked to go or win the Super Bowl by Dr. Z over at Sports Illustrated.

    He has us losing to the Chargers at home in the Divisional Round. In a complete shocker, he doesn't pick the Dolphins to repeat as the AFC representative in the Super Bowl. I was kinda hoping he'd pick the Jets this year.
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    Sorry, he chooses the Saints over the Chargers. As long as it ain't us, who cares.
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    Dr Z and Peter King have become the Eddie Andelman's of national football writers.

    90% of the time they discuss STUPID non-football related junk.

    10% of the time they discuss STUPID football related junk......like the merits of left footed kickers.
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    C'mon now. I'm not a huge Dr. Z fan...actually I'm not a Dr. Z fan at all, but I DO look forward to King every Monday. I think that he is a good author that writes really enjoyable football "stuff". Everyone is entitled to their opinion... but obviously a lot of people like Peter King, man.
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    He also has NE losing at Indy in the regular season (by virtue of us hosting #3 SD in the playoffs). Somehow I don't see a Norv Turner-coached squad from SD marching into wintry Foxboro on a cold January night and winning. At Indy, I could see that happening :)
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    Since King jumped off the Pat's bandwagon......I have severe disdain for him.
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    I like Peter King's reporting, but his analysis and non-football stuff are not good. I agree with you there.

    As for Dr. Z, the only think I like about him is his pickoff video segment with Brooklyn Decker. And that is only enjoyable if you turn off the sound on your computer and just watch Brooklyn as she methodically and insightfully breaks down each game. I do think that segment loses something with the sound on though.
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    Peter King is terrible. Despite spending his days around the game, he has almost no understanding of it whatsoever. Sure he has some good sources, but he never has anything insightful to say and whenever he tries to, he just comes across even dumber than he looked before.

    I will grant you that his editors probably have something to do with it, but I would think that he would show something. Dr. Z is terribly smug and he does go off on tangents (I hate the wine crap), but it is clear that he knows the game. If anything, I think King knows less about the game than your average message board poster.
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    I assume you're NOT including field hockey talk in this figure. I hope he keeps us updated on Mary Catherine or Beth Marie or whoever they were.
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    the experts over at espn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/news/story?id=2984130) pretty much are all over New England, while cnn si (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fo...view/2007/scouting.report/index.html?bcnn=yes) has the saints winning it all

    most people have the pats winning it all....even vegas, there goes any disrespect factor
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    As much as I think it's unlikely, I think the Chargers are certainly an arguable choice as AFC rep in the Super Bowl. Ditto on the Colts, even Denver. Norv blows, but that's a talented team. As for Saints-Chargers - that would be a helluva game and I'd love to see the Chargers and their clueless, ****y, trash-talking mongoloid fans take it on the chin before a worldwide audience.
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    I swear when we were reeling the 21 game win streak, it seemed like he was picking us to lose every week...... But then he is goofier looking than Bugeyed Clayton
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    Personally, I huge fan of his coffee talk. There is nothing better than getting the latest coffee news. His diatribe about how Starbucks plays the same Motown songs everytime he stops in for his coffee was not only though provoking, but insightful.
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    good God, can we all grow up and be permitted to write the ****y - rhymes with schlocky and starts with a hard-K sound. This is so juvenile.
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    I've met Dr Z several times at various shows in PA and NJ and he is a great guy, very personable and friendly. He always goes out of his way to say hello to me and FWIW, he hates the Moss addition..........
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    Didn't Dr. Z pick Miami last year? Regarding King, I remember driving around in 2001 in December or so when King said on WEEI, "I think this Patriots team could be a Super Bowl team". It was the first time I heard someone mention it from a national perspective and he was right.
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    Am I the only one who thinks that the Chargers won't even make the playoffs? Lots of turnover in the coaching staff and I'm not completely sold on Rivers.
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    I think they will make the playoffs, but likely as a Wild Card team.
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    I'm just not bold enough to go that far... yet. I mean the Chargers are a very talented team, are they talented enough to overcome the addition of Norv Turner, at least for the first year? I dunno.

    Dr. Z picking them to win it all might just be enough to make your prediction right though. ;)
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    As in post #20 the Chargers are very talented on paper. But they lost the key members of their coaching staff,and Turner isn't a capable coach imo.Has he ever really won anything? And has DR Z ever acuratly predicted anything? :rolleyes:
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    I agree, but here's the thing that scares me...

    That Chargers team is too talented not to make the playoffs, despite Norv at the helm. They will be there, although probably not at 14-2. And if the Pats faced the Chargers in the playoffs, does anyone here think Norv could do a *worse* job than Marty did last January? Marty's fear of losing due to conservative Martyball and throwing it played a huge role in that loss. If there was any time to stick to Martyball it was that game, considering LT2 was ripping off 6-8yds per carry on the left side. Martyball gets criticized when it gets stuffed and Marty refuses to adjust by throwing (like their Ravens game last year), but when it's working it shouldn't be abandoned for the sake of offensive balance.

    Thank God the Pats are stronger this year (on paper, at least) because I honestly think that if Norv was coaching the Chargers in last year's playoff, the Pats season ends that game.

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    Re ESPN. Egad! TJ picking us I can sort of live with but even Pal Salantonio has us winning it all. That's bad news. I still remember him picking us to lose consecutively to the Colts, Steelers and Eagles before XXXVIII. Any chance someone could get him to reconsider?
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    in my opinion the Bolts will be a very good team this season;not so easy to beat

    NE and SD, imho, are the 2 best NFL teams;i respect the Bolts surely

    will they win the Super Bowl ? i do not know and i hope DR Z will be wrong but allready in week.2 we will face them for an important game
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    Chargers will probably get the #1 seed with a 13-3 record IMO,I don't think using Turner as what he has NOT accomplished in the past is an excuse to say the Chargers are not the biggest threat standing in the way of NE getting to the SB,The Chargers are LOADED as much or even more so than the Patriots - To deny that they are loaded with talent means you have absolutely no football knowledge outside of New England.

    NE should get the #2 seed spot at 12-4 with some kind of tiebreaker edge with Baltimore or maybe even Cincy
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    They have an awful lot of talent. The only hole may be in the secondary, but the pass rush is just so good it doesn't matter.

    Rivers has moxie, a quick release, and doesn't turn the ball over too much. He's solid at a minimum.
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    What's so wrong with this prediction? San Diego is a great football club worthy of recognition as well as our own team. They were a more talented team than the Patriot's last season and they are now a year older.

    We've made our additions to better ourselves but both teams need to come out and prove themselves on the field. I favor the Pat's because of the coaching. Belichick know's what he's got in this football team. Norv Turner? He know's he has some of the most talented player's in the NFL but does he know all 53 players like BB does. Special Teams,sub in packages with the right guys. Knowing all of your players limitations is important and one of the things that makes Belichick head and shoulders the Master.

    I like the Patriots over the Saint's in the Super Bowl.
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    The Chargers do not scare me. At all.

    LT and is a huge component of their team and an amazing athlete as well as Antonio Gates, but I feel alot of the players on that team are HIGHLY overrated.

    Their MLB corp is suspect and their safeties are mediocre.

    Check out Phillip Rivers second half numbers. Not that scary. Their wide receiving corp is pretty average.

    Plus there are way too many punks on the team.

    New Orleans is a nice NFC team, but with the addition of Reggie Bush has caused people to overrate the entire team.

    Nobody scares me this year. We're on a mission.
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    Listen to him whining in today's mailbag.

    Um no they aren't, neither is tough. There is no recourse if his predictions are wrong (which 99% of all predictions are). People may criticize for someone not picking their own team, but I think most criticizm is about even bothering, when most guesses are usually way off.
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    For the record, this is the only Dr Z I care about :)

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    (Guitar players will get this one... to the others, my apologies!)
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