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  1. Cramden

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    It sounds like they're going to milk this process for what it's worth, especially if they fly out to San Fran. I don't like the fact he spent two nights with Dolphins reps either.


    http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/35949.html

    STALLWORTH A TARGET

    The move that might finally bring much-needed improvement to the offense could come if Miami, as expected, offers a contract to free agent receiver Donte' Stallworth.

    Stallworth has spent the past two evenings with Dolphins brass, and agent Drew Rosenhaus said he expects a contract offer from the Dolphins to be forthcoming.

    The Eagles, Titans and Patriots have offers on the table, according to Rosenhaus, and Stallworth is interested in making a decision after his visit with Miami.

    Stallworth, who owns a house locally, would like to play for the Dolphins, and the Dolphins would like to have him at the right price.

    Despite this, Rosenhaus wasn't promising a home-field advantage for the Dolphins, suggesting the San Francisco 49ers might also join the field of teams bidding for his client.
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    I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Rosenhaus's mouth. Remember this is the guy who started his own rumor to get McGahee drafted in the first round...a pick I bet the Bills would like to have back. Not that he's a bad runner, but he wasn't a value since he missed essentially his rookie year, and left the team in a contract dispute. Though getting TWO third rounders wasn't a horrid deal.
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    Knowing Rosenhaus clients if Stallworth has a reasonably good year he will ask for a new contract.
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    This makes you appreciate a guy like Adalius Thomas even more when you read stuff like this. Stallworth is a media circus while Thomas just wanted to come in and get a fair deal and play football.
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    I can wait - I don't really want this guy at the current market rates.
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    It the Patriots have an 'offer on the table" they should pull it. This guy is acting like a whore.
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    He will sign in Miami. If he wanted to be part of a winning team with a hall of fame QB, he would have already signed here in New England. It appears he wants the money and doesn't care who throws him the ball.
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    What a joke:

    Supposedly the Patriots were his second choice.
    This guy and his agent are full of it.

    Pull the offer- Red flags on this guy are all over the place
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    sounds good to me .let him sign with the dolphins then get hurt like he always does.
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    Exactly, and as has been stated, one only needs to look at the agent behind this "circus" to understand what's really going on. First, it was a Philly preference and if that couldn't be worked out, New England was Stallworth's next choice. Right now with Stallworth and Rosenhaus, it's love the team you're with until they show you the money.

    I don't really blame him for finding a team this way. Stallworth's objective is to find the best deal regardless of the team. I was hoping he'd be dissatisfied with what he's seen so far, and sign with the Pats for one season to pump up his value. The longer this goes on, the less likely that will happen.
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    I was hoping to get the guy but this isn't Torry Holt or Chad Johnson. If we want another WR, like Kelly Washington or someone, it's time to move on - we can't be held hostage by Stallworth.
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    I have no problem with Stallworth going out and trying to get the best deal he can. I actually think the longer he drags out the process, the MORE likely he will end up with us with an one year deal.

    If Stallworth got the offer he wanted from any one of Miami, Philly, Tennessee, or the Pats; we would be signed today. Obviously no one is giving him remotely close to what he is asking for. That means he may be more willing to sign an one year deal and prove his worth rather than take a multiyear deal for less than he thinks he is worth.

    He has stated Philly and the Pats are his first two choices. The Eagles are already preparing to move on looking at Kevin Curtis and signing Bethel Johnson. If Philly finds another WR to go with, Stallworth will then opt to sign an one year deal.

    I don't know why people always trash a player when he is trying to get the best deal he can. Football is a business. People seem to be ok with it when we cut a player because he counts too much towards the cap or hasn't lived up to his contract, but alway call the player greedy when they try to make money on the open market.

    If Stallworth insists of getting more than we think he is worth, we will move on. I think he is finding no one will pay him what he feels he is worth. I don't blame him for trying to get it though.
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    Let's end this suspense right now STALLWORTH is NOT COMING HERE TO NEW ENGLAND....If he does I will eat my 1996 pats afc championship hat that has never been washed and absolutely stinks!!! ......Seriously, let's start looking elsewhere....Stallworth will most likely sign with Miami....one man's opinion
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    I don't either.


    Say what you mean and mean what you say. That's usually enough for most fans.
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    As far as I am concerned Stallworth can go **** himself.

    He's messing with these teams, has a jerkoff agent, a drug problem, and a mediocre career at best.

    who the **** does this guy think he is?

    we should just take away our offer and let the titans have him.
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    Actually I think Rosenhaus is playing this one to the benefit of his client for the time being.

    Since they weren't part of the initial feeding frenzy, it makes sense for Stallworth to bide his time until

    1) Someone decides its worth overpaying to address a deep threat need or
    2) Camps start and a WR gets injured

    The latter might be the best way for him to maximize his 1 year contract value - let a few teams suffer injuries and they engage in a bidding war for him.

    The only way I'm signing sooner rather than later if I'm Stallworth if I get multiple years guaranteed now.

    I think at the right price, some teams might be willing to do that. My hope is that Stallworth sees the value of playing for Brady in a contract year, and on a contending team where he can play a big role in a Super Bowl season.
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    What's the value of a QB that spreads the ball around to a stats-seeking WR?
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    Rosenhaus apparently feels it's worth stalling to get the best deal for his client.
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    I just think that he'll probably be going to Miami because of the nightlife around there. There are some awesome clubs jam packed with booze.
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    Well stated. Gotta think that Rosenhaus is looking for big $$$ or he'd be signed by now. There's a risk, however, waiting too long. Once all teams have committed to FAs and completed their drafts, they've also eaten in to their available cap. My guess is that they'd like to sign in the next week as getting close to TC increases the risk that they'll be cornered into a salary with no upside. Here's hoping this points them to the team that can get him the numbers in a one-year deal to vault him higher up the value ladder next year.

    The only downside with the Pats, as mentioned before, is that they spread the ball around and don't emphasize one receiver. We shall see . . .
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    Considering that his choices are

    Vince Young (who cant throw)
    Fumblepepper/Lemon


    or Brady


    Whats youre choice????:D
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    Most NFL GMs understand that successful deep threat guy averaging 3-4 passes a game at 20 ypc can actually be more valuable than someone averaging 8 passes a game at 10 ypc.

    Had he been healthy he would have been good for 50 passes or so at 19 ypc last year. His health is part of what he needs to prove, but having a good QB who can get the ball to him 3 times a game is essential as well.

    It's a lot of the fans who don't look much further than the number of catches. Stallworth and his agent understand this and also know that coming off a Super Bowl win can help secure a nice contract as well.

    I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that the Patriots stand a better chance of winning a SB than Miami, Tennessee, or even San Francisco.
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    Im even getting sick of the Stallworth nonsense... And I want the guy on the team, Im at the point if he come great , if not oh well..
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    Here's a radical thought: why don't we let BB/SP decide when it is time to move on?

    I am sure glad I don't have to do my job with thousands of amateur onlookers constantly commenting on what I should do.
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    Football is a job and any worker wants to get the most money they can for their services. However, the other part of a job is working conditions. If a player comes to the Pats they can enjoy winning a lot of football games and having a good shot at getting a ring. If Stallworth does not value the Pats working conditions, I say he's not someone we want to have on our team.
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    It's quite obvious the guy is saying all the right things to each team while looking for the biggest payday. I don't know if playing for the Pats will provide him with the stats that he will want in order to lan dhis next payday. He is about the $$ so personally I could pass on this guy. We may need a deep threat but we need a WR that is hungrier for a chmpionship rather than $$. How much money do you need?
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    Forget him.
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    Cousins,
    Why would we not want Curtis. Everybody tags him as a slot guy. He's not just a slot guy and can be a #1. He has as much speed as Stallworth, has hands and runs routes. He's smart and is the same size (5' 11" and 190 vs 6' and 196) as Stallworth and can take a hit. He caught 40 last year and Stallworth 38. Stallworths carrer YPC is 15 and Curtis in roughly 13. Curtis does not get hurt and Stallworth does. Curtis can play ST. Stallworth has Rosenlouse.

    Why are we saying Curtis is a slot guy? Anybody know anything different? Do they sit Holt and "the Preacher'? No, he just had to play slot to get on the field.

    He's cheaper, smarter and as productive. He wanted the west coast but now is looking further. He got fed up with his a** of an agent and wants to sign.

    Gaffney, Curtis and Welker running loose in a three receiver set causes some problems (or a healthy CJ) Curtis can stretch the field too. Stallworth can stretch his hammy. 27 of Curtis' 40 cathches were for first downs.

    DW Toys
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    I have not seen anyone here trash any player who says he wants to get the best contract he can.

    Those who are trashed are those that say, "I want to stay in Philly" and then go to the highest bidder even though Philly made a decent offer. Or those who say that they are being disrespected by being offered 20 million dollars and that is why they won't sign the x team, even though they really really want to.

    If they want to go to the highest bidder, moer power to them. But when they start this, "I want to play here or there" but all they really want is the most possible dollars, then they get trashed. Rightfully.

    I never understood why guys would leave someplace they like to earn $30 million instead of staying when they are happy and only earning $25 million. Doesn't being happy count for anything? Can't youk be satisfied with $25 million in a place that you like as opposed to an extra five mill where youk are less happy? What good is money except to make you happy?

    I like Pioli's interview with Reiss:

    There was talk that you might be hired for a job with the New York Giants, your dream job. What went into your decision to stay with the Patriots?"

    It comes down to quality of life and happiness. No disrespect to any other job opportunities that may have been out there or may come in the future, but you know what my dream job is? My dream job is being with people I care about, people that I want to work with, people that I enjoy coming to work with every day, whether it's coaches or ownership or the players. We've built something here that is pretty special. Quality of life has more to do with being happy, coming to work every day, and winning. The other thing that's paramount is we're winning here. It's a great situation, with a lot of great people, and I enjoy being here."
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    i agree with those who say that he should get the best contract he can. I don't think it will be with us...time to move on...

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