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Does Belichick need to win another Super Bowl to make the Hall Of Fame?

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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    Right now I am not certain Belichick will be a shoo in down the road when the Hall Of Fame vote for him goes into consideration.

    While I think he will definately be a consideration 2 years after he retires,I think he will have about a 50/50 chance of getting in at this point.

    Like the link I post below there is a good chance Belichick can solidify his chance to get in with another Super Bowl championship or two or at least have the team go deep into the playoffs most years until he steps down.

    Sadly enough I think if this team suddenly goes on a downward spiral in the following few years,then the events/scandal from the last year will come up and Belichicks chances of HOF status will be a longshot in the eyes of the voters and which many of those voters may think his wins were the result of an advantage during the glory years (which we all know in here is BS).

    Its almost an sure thing that BB will have to have success in the near future to prove to all he really is a great coach and deserves his honor inducted into the HOF which of course is the ultimate event every NFL Head Coach dreams of.

    http://www.cleveland.com/brownsbeat/index.ssf/2008/05/does_bill_belichick_deserve_th.html

    DO YOU THINK HE NEEDS ANOTHER SEVERAL GREAT YEARS OF COACHING AND LOTS OF WINS OR IS HE SET IN STONE AND A SHOO IN RIGHT NOW?
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    The simple answer is, No.

    You can equate it to last years Coach of the Year award. The year he got caught cheating he also won the Coach of the Year award.

    I believe that there are a lot of articles being written right now for the SOLE purpose of Hit counts and Links - It's hot so they are writing some of the most ridiculous articles imaginable just for the shock factor.

    The under current is that most of these writers know the truth, that this is a widespread "problem" and that Bill was not the lone gunmen in the process - He's simply the scapegoat that coaches for one of the greatest team in history - Those two things alone are enough to flood mainstream newspapers and web sites with absolute CRAP.

    Bottom line - This will all subside, Bill will fall into his place in history (First round Ballot HOF'r) and we will win three more Super Bowls. Nice. :)
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    The only coach to win 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, the only coach to go 16-0 and the only coach to build a dynasty in the salary cap era. He's a Hall of Fame lock.
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    Having 19-0 in 08 will put BB in HoF before his early retirement and make Goodel change the name of current trophy to BB so that all BB haters will mention his name FOREVER.
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    Belichick will get into the HOF even if he never wins another game. I am willing to bet that he won't be a first or second ballot inductee though. My guess is that the voters will punish Belichick by not letting him in on the first try, but he will get in.
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    its laughable to think that he may not but if the sentiments after this issue speak to his being inducted it could be ugly.
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    Depends on a few writers. I know that one of the Brown's writers is a big opponent of Art Modell going into the HOF. Everytime there is a move to put him on the ballot, this writer leads the charge to exclude Modell from the ballot and it has worked up to now.

    Does Specter have any writers in his back pocket? Could Tomase wield that much influence down the road? Would any of the NY rags?
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    I honestly thought, as stupid as it may sound to some, that he had a chance to have the AFC Championship trophy named after him.

    Perhaps, after all is said and done, it will have his name.

    I hope it does. It would not only be a win for NE but for any other team he has ever had an affiliation with.
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    Absolutely.I don't see why it can't happen because everybody considers him to be a GENUINE. People's jelousy is the only factor which prevents it from happening.
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    Unfortunately, they will hold this so-called "cheating" thing over his head for years, I don't think he makes it as a first time ballot (he should though!), I think he will be looked at as a Mark McGwire/Barry Bonds (though I disagree). I think he needs to win another, then they have to vote him in.
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    He has the credentials to get in today but if the voting were to happen now, there would be writers on the fence given their relationship with him. Right or wrong, he has definitely tarnished his reputation with the Spygate scandal.

    Once the dust settles years from now and the Pats win several more Super Bowls, it will all be a moot point and he will go in as the greatest NFL coach ever.
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    Belichick's credentials already have him in the Hall of Fame.
    All this mediot masturbation from the likes of Pompous Peter: King of the Mediots and Sqeak Mazz is nothing but background noise.
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    One problem he'll face is the Bill Parcells effect. When he retires people will wonder if he'll come back. Joe Gibbs return to coaching embarrassed the HOF mightily.

    BB might have turn 70 first.

    Another problem is Halberstam's book. BB coaches almost as a hobby. Unless he is coaching his grandson's Pop Warner team he might come back after turning 70. Heck, BB might need to die first.
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    No, he's done enough already. Unfortunately, this will overshadow all of his accomplishments but he'll still be a first ballot HOFer. You don't win three SBs in four years and guide a dynasty in a time in which one is supposed to be prevented and not be elected to Canton after it all is said and done.
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    He doesn't need the Hall, he already is famous...after this winter, his name recognition is world famous.
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    In Peter King's interview with Dan Patrick, he said he would still vote for Belichick unless new allegations and confessions are presented that further implicate him. He did say other writers will not be as forgiving as he.
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    He will make it in to the Hall, Al Davis is in there and he far more hated the Bill will ever be. Over time they will change their mind, this will become a footnote once they step back and look at it. At that time his accomplishments will more center stage.
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    No, but I do think that the Patriots have to continue having

    winning teams for Spygate to die out. If the Patriots had a couple

    of lean years under Belichick, fans outside New England would attribute

    this to Belichick not being able to video tape any longer.
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    That's lunacy because they didn't tape this year. But I agree that the sentiment will exist.

    As for BB and the HOF, I would say that Bethel Johnson has a better chance of making the Hall of fame than BB does of not making it.
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    What will the make up of the voters be in twenty years?
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    How can you equate players that were involved in a "criminal" act to BB, who freely admitted to mis-interpreting a league "rule." A rule that required a memo to "clarify" it therefore inherently stating that the original "rule" was open to mis-interpretation.

    And has the Broncos* cheating tainted their SBs? Their coach? Elway? They were fined double what the Pats were and I've heard NOTHING to take away the shine on those rings. Do you hear anyone talking about lifetime suspensions for anyone connected to the 49ers for their violations of the salary cap??? Isn't that "cheating?"

    It's the hypocrisy that enrages me more than anything.

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    You forgot his consecutive victories record which he broke his own record.
    A streak, BTW, that is still alive.:D
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    Don't worry. The Pats look to be competing heavily in the future with the guys (Tom, Randy, Wes,Lomo, OL). If these rookies we got in the draft can step up and give us some immediate contributions on D, the Pats will be real tough to stop again.

    No. Coach don't need no more SBs for his hof induction.
    He's gonna win more anyways.

    And yes that will minimize the whole Liegate/camera hunt and maybe even expose it for what it was. A witch hunt.
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    Shoo in, no doubt.

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    BB needs to have at least 7 SB rings before putting him on HOF. Yes, it is a minimum requirement. No exception for BB.
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    No....But I hope he does because I want to see more Super Bowl Titles In New England
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