Does anyone on this board have one LEGITIMATE reason to attack Dungy????

[PromisedLand]

the way he is attacked here on this board almost every other post it seems like makes me think most of the posters here think otherwise

You can't base what most of the posters here think on what you read here. Just because certain opinions are expressed frequently or forcefully does not make them the opinion of the majority.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Come on, you all can do better than that

1) He said camera gate tainted our championships

2) He and Polian whine to the officials about anything that doesn't go their way and then push self-serving rules and points of emphasis through the competition comittee.

3) He went on a national publicity tour for an autobiography entitled "Quiet Strength".

4) I don't like 'nice guy' coaches. Period.

5) He coaches the Colts, the arch-nemesis of the Patriots.

I could come up with more, but #3 is enough all by itself.

 

[DaBruinz]

So far we have some classic idiotic reasoning from many users on this board

1) He's a christian, therefore he is the devil

2) OMG he doesnt support Gay marriage?? he's a BIGOT

3) His son killed himself, so he must be a horrible father

4) he wrote a BOOK, and he's a COACH. WTF is he doing???

5) He's always so holy, holy this, holy that

6) he said it was a "sad day for the NFL" when spygate happened

7) He doesn't cuss??? **** him then

Come on, you all can do better than that

First off, I've never hear ANYONE say they hated Dungy for supposedly being a bad father.

I think Dungy should keep his mouth shut regarding his religious beliefs. NO ONE cares to hear what they are. The fact that he thinks that his status as a coach gives him the right to use that forum to preach to people is what I find distasteful about him.

 

[upstater1]

YES! Dead-on! I was even told that catholics are not christian. Uhh...wtf?! I have come to realize that these born-again types are so brainwashed and indoctrinated it's frightening. They remind me of the children of the corn, "Have yew found jay-sus?"...nah, lemme check under the mattress. I have also come to find that those most vocal about their faith are often the worst people.

What really gets me about him is that Dungy likes to portray himself as sort of demi-god, and seems to impose his beliefs on all those within earshot. The media loves him because he's the Deval Patrick of football. The cute, cuddly little 'together we can' guy secretely destroying the world. We have to constantly hear about what a great visionary and catalyst for change he is. I don't see him doing anything great, that's for sure. Who is he to say what is good in this world? I'm just sick of the nice guy attitudes...it's football, have some grit and anger.

Just wondering, what is wrong with Patrick? Quite frankly, since I now live out of state, and am a former Bostonian, I thought the whole state had changed when they elected Patrick. Regardless of his politics, this wasn't the Massachusetts I had known. It really spoke well of how far Mass. had come along from the 1970s.

 

[DaBruinz]

Compare the two lists, and answer that question yourself. All the negative media talk Belichick gets he brought on himself

BULLSH!T. How does he bring it on himself? Because he thinks that they are a waste of his time and that his time is better spent studying his upcoming opponents than answering ignorant questions?

Its clear to me that you are as hateful of Belichick as you claim people are here of Dungy.

 

[DaBruinz]

definition of Bigot from webster:Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

When has Dungy ever said he was intolerant of Gay people?? When has he treated members of the gay community with prejudice??

He's publically said he's against gays being allowed to marry. He's also said that they aren't natural.

 

[jays52]

Just wondering, what is wrong with Patrick? Quite frankly, since I now live out of state, and am a former Bostonian, I thought the whole state had changed when they elected Patrick. Regardless of his politics, this wasn't the Massachusetts I had known. It really spoke well of how far Mass. had come along from the 1970s.

Easy. He's a socialist. That's the only unlikeable thing about him, and his fiscal politics are the only thing I disagree with him about. Don't insinuate something that was never a consideration.

 

[PatriotsReign]

So far we have some classic idiotic reasoning from many users on this board

1) He's a christian, therefore he is the devil

2) OMG he doesnt support Gay marriage?? he's a BIGOT

3) His son killed himself, so he must be a horrible father

4) he wrote a BOOK, and he's a COACH. WTF is he doing???

5) He's always so holy, holy this, holy that

6) he said it was a "sad day for the NFL" when spygate happened

7) He doesn't cuss??? **** him then

Come on, you all can do better than that

I'll tell you exactly why. Because Colts (and others) fans constantly attack Belichick. You may find this surprising, but we support and love our coach just like you guys support Dungy.

If you want Dungy attacks to stop, then stop insulting our coach.

PRETTY PLAIN & SIMPLE TO ME. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

Allow me to spell it out a little more clearly. If you come onto our board and insult our coach, you're not welcome here. Can't be any clearer, can I?

 

[BradyFTW!]

I just don't like when anyone uses their religion as a platform to talk down to other people, and he fits that bill well enough. That said, the suicide is, of course, out of bounds, and the man is obviously a good coach.

Regarding the "sad day for the NFL" point, that is far from the only thing that he said. He also took shots at "win at all costs" organizations, which, given the context, was obviously him going after the Pats.

Hypocritical as hell of him, since it's well known that every team in the league crosses ethical boundaries to secure wins. Every coach, for example, sells out his players' future health to get some wins, and loads guys up with anesthetics so they can play when they probably shouldn't be walking. So yeah, when Dungy starts rambling about the strength and integrity of his organization, I view him as an unbelievable hypocrite. Football is not an ethical sport.

 

[njpatsfan]

I'm glad someone posted a thread on this. Like I have said before, there are many things not to like about the Colts team and organization. Tony Dungy isn't one of them.

The anti-Christian bigotry Ive seen on several threads is completely out of line. We as Pats fans always excoriate other fans who go over the top in their 'hatred' for the Patriots, and would like to think of ourselves as better than that.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people cannot feel good about themselves if they cannot tear other people down. Or, in this case, a sports team by proxy. You can admire players and coaches on other teams for being talented or smart or upright. And the fact that they are doesn't diminish the greatness of the Patriots in any way.

Being able acknowledge this is a measure of maturity - something some posters here seem to lack.

R

 

[QuiGon]

Come on, you all can do better than that

The only criticism I have of Dungy is that his teams have a tendency to underachieve. He's a decent coach but not as great as many in the media make him out to be.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

So far we have some classic idiotic reasoning from many users on this board

1) He's a christian, therefore he is the devil

2) OMG he doesnt support Gay marriage?? he's a BIGOT

3) His son killed himself, so he must be a horrible father

4) he wrote a BOOK, and he's a COACH. WTF is he doing???

5) He's always so holy, holy this, holy that

6) he said it was a "sad day for the NFL" when spygate happened

7) He doesn't cuss??? **** him then

Come on, you all can do better than that

He's a phony, whiny little ass like LT and just like I could see right thru LT's act before it became obvious to anyone with a brain I can see thru Dungy's phony act. I hate fakes.

 

[desi-patsfan]

Something bad happens: God works in mysterious ways
Something good happens: It was God's work

This is one of the weirdest things about god.

I remember Terry Bradshaw once asking,

"how come no one points to the sky and thanks god when they drop a game winning TD pass? How come no one ever points to the sky and thanks god for a game ending swing and miss strike out?"

 

[scout]

I like Dungy, think he's a good coach and that he got screwed when Chucky and the Bucs won the SB after he left with a team that HE built but Grudin got all the credit.

However whenever you see him on camera those eyes of his freak me out, they always look like they're super glued wide open and he can't blink!

Dungy would never have won the Super Bowl coaching Tampa Bay, nada, nope, not happening. I lived there when he coached and agonized with everyone else as every qb for Tampa would throw for 3 yards when they needed 6. Over and over and over again. He had a great defense, which is his strength, but did not have a clue on offense. Gruden took over (with that great defense) and the offense clicked. First thing Gruden did was recognize Dungy for his work. As great a job Dungy did for Tampa, he would not have gotten them a title.

 

[14thDragon]

So far we have some classic idiotic reasoning from many users on this board

1) He's a christian, therefore he is the devil

2) OMG he doesnt support Gay marriage?? he's a BIGOT

3) His son killed himself, so he must be a horrible father

4) he wrote a BOOK, and he's a COACH. WTF is he doing???

5) He's always so holy, holy this, holy that

6) he said it was a "sad day for the NFL" when spygate happened

7) He doesn't cuss??? **** him then

Come on, you all can do better than that

I'm going to go with the real reason, which like all real reasons, comes from Star Trek. Because you are here. And by you I mean all the Colts fans here. We know you are here, we know you are reading, we know that it upsets you to have your coach/qb/team picked on.

My bigger question to you is, why the h*ll are you surprised. You are our rival, a hated rival to boot. Professionally and personally rivals to our team. Why should you be expecting some sort of admiration society here? He is the enemy and we will find a way to demonize the enemy.

So there is your answer. PLain and simply, the fact of the matter is his success hurts us, causes us pain, we feel loss when his team finds joy. With a rivalary it is a zero sum game. For one to win the other must lose. If you want love and respect for your coach, your team, you qb, then go to your teams fan site.

There should be zero expectation of rational dislike. It does not need to be ration, it does not need to be legitimate, it does not need to be anyhting more then we don't like the cut-of-his jib. We can attack him for wearing a sweater vest if we want. None of it needs explanation or rationalization. Least of all someone that is posting such a question just to get the self rightous satisfaction of being able to go; "Aha, see you can't dislike our coach, you are fools to do so." Go feed your ego somewhere else.

 

[Stop Being A Jerk]

He's a passive-aggresive, holier-than-thou attention whore.

Good enough? Or will you call those illegitimate as well? Because if you say it, it's true.

 

[OtisCampbell]

So far we have some classic idiotic reasoning from many users on this board

1) He's a christian, therefore he is the devil

2) OMG he doesnt support Gay marriage?? he's a BIGOT

3) His son killed himself, so he must be a horrible father

4) he wrote a BOOK, and he's a COACH. WTF is he doing???

5) He's always so holy, holy this, holy that

6) he said it was a "sad day for the NFL" when spygate happened

7) He doesn't cuss??? **** him then

Come on, you all can do better than that

His ears are as big as satellite dishes, and I think he is intercepting our signals with them

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Look, this really doesn't belong on the football forum, but some people consider the right to marry a consenting, adult partner of their choice to be a basic human right. Naturally those people will believe that someone out to deny them that right is bigoted against them.

The word you need to use is biased. or prejudiced...not bigot. I a a Christian and do not favor gay marriage because that is what the bible tells me, I do not however hate gay people at all. (hate the sin, not the sinner)I have several friends who are gay and so it isn't an easy issue at all. Assuming that someone who doesn't support your specific ideals is a bigot leads me to surmise that you are either unsure of what that word means, or are very immature. It makes me ill to side with a Colts fan, but on this one he has a point. Bigotry is a powerful word reserved for violent, and or mean spirited ignoramus' who use hatred as a way to argue.

 

[54Bruschi]

Ok guys... some of my fellow Pats here are almost turning this into an anti-Christian thread. Can we leave it alone?

Look, Dungy is a man that seems to stand behind his beliefs. Whether or not you happen to share those beliefs is irrelevant. How can you not admire a trait such as that?

I don't see Dungy going out trying to *find* the spot light. He gets in front of the camera when it's pointed at him. Just as any of us would do.

Yes, the Colts [fans] do a fine job of stooping to Eagles' level bad-mouthing of our team, its coaches, and even us. You believe we're a better team on the field? You believe we're the greatest team the NFL has ever seen? Fine, so do I... so let's not stoop down and go "Eagles" on them. At least not by attacking the persona of their head coach. They're calling Bill a cheater, a hater, bla bla bla... that just shows how much class the Indianapolis Eagles have. I for one think we're better than that!

Well, let me take a moment to clarify my point.

Ok, making fun of buckethead (Manning) is fine, but that's a far cry different from attacking Dungy's religious and personal beliefs. I hope that makes sense.

 

[RobAllan]

The word you need to use is biased. or prejudiced...not bigot. I a a Christian and do not favor gay marriage because that is what the bible tells me, I do not however hate gay people at all. (hate the sin, not the sinner)I have several friends who are gay and so it isn't an easy issue at all. Assuming that someone who doesn't support your specific ideals is a bigot leads me to surmise that you are either unsure of what that word means, or are very immature. It makes me ill to side with a Colts fan, but on this one he has a point. Bigotry is a powerful word reserved for violent, and or mean spirited ignoramus' who use hatred as a way to argue.

I have a question here, though, and it's not necessarily related just to this issue with Dungy. It seems to me he uses his public persona to advance both his own political, social, and religious agendas. Certainly, he's not the first person to do it. But is there not a line between sharing your faith and giving yourself a mandate to be the authority on it. I'm sorry, but to my knowledge, Dungy has no certification by any Church or group to be speaking on its behalf. Now, in fact, maybe he does. But I'm not aware of it so to this point I find it distasteful. Especially considering he does so under the auspices of being a football coach. When is the last time you saw another coach, who has obvious off-field family issues, purport to tell others how to live their lives?

Just my two cents.