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  1. brady199

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    With expectations so high this year, i can't help but think what would happen if Brady went down for the season. I like Cassel, I'm just not sure I would honestly feel comftable with him leading us in the Playoffs. A couple of games in the regular season and i think were fine, no need to worry.

    Joe Gibbs once said The most important position on the field is QB, and the 2nd most important position is Backup QB.

    With that said does anyone know of anyone who is decent and available at this time?:)
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    Not Drew Bledsoe.

    How about Tim Rattay as I think he will be released. thoase who read alot will know that the late Dick Rehbein was having a toss up between drafting Brady and him...
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    I feel this way every year. bb and pioli seem to disagree.
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    Cassel is really good. The Pats will be just fine.
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    I feel the need to NOT have a Testaverde until late in the season. I want the roster spot since we're almost sure to have 6 RBs and 6 WRs, which is pushing it on offense. And if Brady goes down, it's Cassell at the wheel and I'm fine with that. It would be interesting to see what he has.
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    We had just Cassel for most of last year, I see no reason to change. And if Vinny wants to come along for the ride as a safety net heading into the playoffs, great.
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    I am not a roster expert, but I feel like 2 is good for now, and if Brady (God forbid!) goes down, we could pick up a veteran to back up Cassell. For now I'd rather use that roster spot on another position.
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    will let us hope brady dose not get hert even do i think Cassel is a good QB and can get us to the playoffs but if brady gets hert for a long time if the QB ant payton manning i dont care who you sign we wont win the super bowl but cassel is a good QB and some one will give us a 2th rounder or a frist for him soon
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    Like Patjew says. Just like last year. You start the season with one backup. Wait to see where the injuries fall (in the non QB positions)...and then grab a 3rd vet 1/2 through the season. It's BB new way of getting a look at an extra position player in the first half of the season (when u know odds are you only need two QB's). Got it?
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    If we signed one of the vets avaialble (which do you have in mind), and Brady got hurt, who would BB put in the game?

    I think he would put in Cassel. If that is true, then what purpose would the vet QB serve?

    Having a vet QB would be useful only if he were the one going in should Brady get hurt.
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    I'm thinking that, with the recent WR acquisitions, Cassel is capable of sustaining an offense. Last years crew, prolly no. Mediocrity + mediocrity = Rex Grossman & the Bears. Maybe the defense holds it together.

    Don't take this the wrong way. I have faith that Cassel is better than Grossman. BUT..to expect more than average from him is misguided. Perhaps he is, perhaps he's not. We simply don't know.

    With the offense we now have, the loss of Brady is now not an instant death, whereas last year we would have been the Bears.

    EDIT: If this assessment resonates with anybody, it is a testament to the strength of this team going into 2007.
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    It's interesting to see how well Damon Huard is doing at KC, after riding the pine for so long in Foxboro. That's the best way I have to triangulate on what the FO think of Cassell as a #2.

    We dont see everything that the coaches do. We dont see Cassell in practice and in the lockerroom. Its interesting to me that Huard was a pleasant surprise to the Chiefs. I actually dont think the Pats FO was all that surprised at his level of success.

    In comparison to Huard, who BB seemed ready to demote and release as soon as other talent presented itself, BB has shown a lot of faith in Cassell. I dont think the braintrust would have decided to carry 2 QBs for so long simply out of laziness. They know what they have better than anyone else.
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    I was definately thinking of Huard. We've actually had a reasonable history of having very solid back-ups at QB. The reliance on Cassel tells tales, if all this speculation gets us anywhere.
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    I don't think we'd have any difficulty picking up Rohan Davey if things got tough ... :)
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    Somehow this reminds me of the conversation that was had when Bledsoe went down. Seems that our backup performed ok then.
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    We'd really have to win the arm-wrestling contest, though. Wherever Rohan is, Aaron Brooks is sure to follow. Rohan/Aaron..it really is a conundrum. Agile, quick, strong armed. You can only have one. What do you do?
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    In all seriousness, though, we've had Huard, who seems like a solid enough back-up. We had Friesczsszsseszz (sp?), who, at the time was compared to (Can he be the next Steve Young ?!?!), etc.

    People are silly. what can you do. But I'm guessing Cassel is at least capable now.
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    What if Cassel got hurt?

    It's not as if a backup QB has never gotten hurt in the NFL.
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    Well, I'm not being TOTALLY non-serious. The Patriots obviously saw something in Rohan that we didn't, since they were prepared to have him as their number 2 QB -- a position that, as you rightly say, they don't take lightly.

    If (God forbid) Brady goes down, there are a number of options for a back-up QB (including "un-retiring" Vinny Testaverde, Doug Flutie, Joe Theisman ... :D )
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    Back then we were headed for disaster with Bledsoe.
    We had no expectations of a superbowl, and nothing to loose with Brady.
    Now were superbowl bound so the risk is completley different.
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    I wonder where Micheal Bishop is?
    I thought that guy was gonna make it in the NFL.
    I was a Bishop fan.
    Trying to push Bledsoe out before Brady even got here.
    Now you see the kind of Insight I have.
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    Cassel is now a two year veteran. If a veteran is brought in from the

    outside, he has to be brought up to speed. I do think that this should

    be the year to begin grooming a young quarterback. Guiterrez? Cassel

    may leave after next year and it would be nice to have a young guy in

    place.
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    BB obviously thinks well of Cassel. He's the backup. Meanwhile, the roster spot can be used to keep a developmental player. Ideally a young developmental QB should be the 3rd, possibly on the practise squad. Were Brady to get injured, THEN would be the time to sign a vet to back up Cassel should he in turn get his bells rung.
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    We already got one... Tom Brady.
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    Just wanted to comment that I feel Guiterrez was another Patriots "steal". I followed him a bit in his high school career in CA and feel if not for his injury in college (and subsequent transfer to a lower tier school), he might have been a 1st/2nd round draft choice.
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    It'll be interesting to see what they do with him, assuming they want to keep him I'm guessing they'll cut him and hope he makes it through waivers to go on the practice squad.
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    Let us suppose that Cassell were injured. How would everyone feel? You all have confidence that bb would find some scrub and we'd be fine. bb has taken this risk for years, and likely will for another three.

    I like Gutierrez also. However, I have to think that if bb wanted a QB for the roster, he would have used one of the late round picks. The comp fifth and later is the time to take a chance on quarterbacks.

    And yes, I would bring in the best veteran we could get. We used to have Grogan, Zolak, Huard and others.
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    agreed, the situation is completely different.

    In 2001 we were looking for any kind of improvement for future seasons, and yet expectations were far exceeded with a Super Bowl victory.

    When Bledsoe went down, the 2001 season was supposed to a be much like the Celtics seasons of the past five years (a building year).

    This year the Pats will need to put a plan in place to win the Super Bowl even without Brady.

    Tim Rattay may be the guy. I don't think anyone would trust Jake Plummer.

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