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    do you think he would rather win now, that get paied and have a situation like oakland arise again? i know he said he hs enough money....now he just wants to win. I hope he keeps that attitude. man i sure hope they sighn him. Him and brady are unstopable.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    There's no real doubt he would.

    The only questions are

    1. How MUCH of a discount he'll give.
    2. To what extent other teams will think he's truly more valuable on the Pats than elsewhere, and hence not want to pay him for the full performance he shows here.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I think he'll take a LOT of money, but slightly less than he could command on the open market. I'd be very surprised if he leaves. I think he feels he's found a home, not just in this offense but in this organization and system. It provides the structure and discipline that he clearly craves and excels in, and it provides an opportunity for him to be WHO HE IS and to be the best he can be. And he's got Brady throwing him the ball. I think he stays.
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    he wants to secure his legacy...money he has...he knows what it is like to be on a non- contending team..he wont risk that again. if one of the top org. offers more..it is possible..but i think he is will to give quite a big discount to NE if we do well this year. if pats win SB he will stay for half price
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I think you guys are fooling yourselves. Moss wants a ring. Once he has that he will go back to "ME, ME, ME." He'll take a huge payday from some cellar dweller and be the asshat we all know he is deep down inside.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I don't know about that. There's also the chance that he realizes that the money he gets from endorsements is significantly more than any contract, and that by staying in New England he has the chance to play Rice to Brady's Montana.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    This could end up being the bright side of losing a first round pick this year. We will have extra $$$ to offer Moss a fair deal. I would like to see him stay beyond this year
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I've been watching football far too long to believe that.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I don't think so. The Oakland thing taught him a lesson. He might go to another top team (Pit, Indy, etc) if they empty the bank for him, but he won't just follow the money again.

    At this point, his reputation, stats, oportunities to get rings, legacy, and possible HOF entry are far more important to him than money. If he stays here and excels, it makes it look like the previous stuff was just the biproduct of other crappy situations.

    If he leaves here and gets himself into another bad situation, all that goes up in smoke.

    The pats have arguably the best QB in the NFL and certainly the best Head Coach in the league. They have a great Oline, RB, defense, and complimentary receiving targets. He is in the perfect situation. Leaving that would be dumb.

    The pats will offer him a long term contract at 5-6M per year and he'll take it.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    Wake up and smell the coffee man. Once he has the ring, he will be like Dillon and a thousand other thugs. He will go back to his old ways and start stock-piling the money. He will want to get what he can while he can.
    I've seen this movie before, only the names have changed.
    But maybe he will be the exception, not the rule. But don't bank on it.
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    In this Troll's mind, black athlete = Thug. Please share more of your knowledge with us!
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I'd watch the "thugs" comments.........

    I think we're getting ahead of ourselves here--let's take it slow. If he has a monster year and is healthy, he'll want to get paid, and the Pats will see if they can work whatever that payment will be into their system. If not, he'll move on. If I had to guess, he'll be here next year. But it's premature to speculate.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    I read an incredible history/bio of Moss last summer. He has always wanted to win really bad; losing drives him insane. It makes me think the Pats and Moss will find an accommodation.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    Dillon wanted to stockpile money? Where are you getting this crap? He played hurt the last two years he was here.

    Oh, he's a Bungles fan. Never mind then. You're one to talk about "thugs" when your entire team is made up of them.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    Why do people assume that "ME, ME, ME" = "MONEY, MONEY, MONEY"? I'm as self-absorbed as the next person, but I do things for many different self-serving reasons. Sometimes money is what I'm after, but sometimes it's time, or comfort, or glory, or fun and excitement. Even "wanting a ring" can be self-serving.

    When I see Randy Moss right now, he looks like he's having the time of his life. I'm betting that counts for a lot in the ME, ME, ME equation.
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    Moss will decide among many options. He doesn't need to go to the very highest bidder. I would presume that Green Bay would be interested and perhaps Philly. Indy might be interested.

    I think it will take a lot, and he's worth every penny.
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    Even more than money, he wants to make all the haters eat crow. I think he will come back if he thinks that is his best chance to win.
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    I'll say it now. Moss will retire a Patriot. Moss is in Legacy time. We will likey pay him good cash and he will take it. No way Donte stay's so some of that cash will be free too. Moss has great numbers here, but I think that even he understands that, in Brady, he has something he has NEVER had.

    He will stay here and if we are lucky, one day, they'll talk about Brady/Moss the same way they talk about Montana/Rice. These two are special skill players that have the unigue ability to make each other better. He'll understand, if he doesn't already, that this coud be a place not only to make the HOF, but to become known as one of the greatest recievers of all time, instead of just potentially the greatest.

    Some of this is a little optimistic, but we've shown that we will pay for high talent, and Moss is surely high talent.
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    Assuming the Pats win the superbowl or not, I believe that Moss will retire a Patriot. Moss insists that he has enought money, so I don't think that will be an issue. However, he will ask for a reasonable amount, which I think the Pats will match. Unless your Peyton Manning, their is no other QB to team up with besides Tom Brady. I say Stallworth has a better chance of leaving than Moss. Brady and Moss have something special going on. In addition, I think that my boy Chad Jackson will take over at the #2 next year with our boy Welker dominating the slot duties.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    You clearly have absolute insight into Moss's psyche, and are thus able to predict his behavior with certainty. How did you gain such a remarkably profound understanding of the man?
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    i think that if moss ends up with a great pro-bowl year like he is having, he will want more money and i think the pats would be willing to pay him a little extra for 2-3 years. Kraft and other will see what moss is like brady...a deadly combo
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    Pats will give Moss a good deal and get him signed. They gave Dillon good money and Antwain Smith. They offered Branch good money.

    I think Randy stays. Pats differentiate between key players and replaceable players and Moss is not replaceable at the same level of play by anyone in the league right now.
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    when we get another ring it wont be too tough to get him to stay...
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    I do.
    He will be paid quite well here but still give a small discount to get the SBs and HoF stats on his resume.
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    I agree with this prediction. I think he will expect to be paid, but he might take slightly less than the market would pay just to stay here. He's not going to want to go to a stinky team with no QB for tons more $$. Been there, done that, and it's no fun.
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    Re: DO you think that at the end of the year, Moss will take less money again to stay

    He took the low contract this year because he wanted out so bad from Oakland.
    I wouldn't expect the same generosity after this season.
    We'll see if they can work out something that's good for both sides.
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    also..in the football world he belongs no where till now...looking at past footballers..they seem to like that feeling that they are still part of the fraternity..
    as many have said already in this thread...he will retire a pat. as long as he knows when its time to retire..and not drag out his career.
    2-3 more years as a pat seems good.

    if he has any brains he will not leave a good home. of course vinitraitor left :confused:
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    Adam left because of the dome situation..and being on another top club..and I don't think Moss will do that. he's been around teh league..been in teh worst situation..and he must be so happy having a QB that can get him the ball!! I mean..he's going to have a monster year..BUT more importantly, I think he's understanding what team football is AND enjoying it!! And when I see him smiling and having fun..it's as much about the team winning as the TDs...he's never played on a winner..till now..so?? I will go with the optimism and say he stays..he knows a good thing and how HARD that is to find. They will offer a reasonable contract..and he stays!
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    Sign him now to 2 years 20 million incentive based and don't look back!!
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    I think it is impossible to tell if he will stay or not. No one knows his true motives. He may enjoy being on a winner and will take less to stay or he may be doing and saying all the right things and looking for two prizes early in 2008 - a Super Bowl ring and a huge contract.

    I think people who think that Moss is definitely buying into this legacy and being part of something special may be disapointed. He will probably have a lot of offers if the Pats don't franchise him and he may decide to go to the highest bidder because the highest bidder will most likely be a legitimate Super Bowl contender. No crappy team is going to try to sign him since they know what happened in Oakland.

    Personally, I don't know if the Pats will be willing to pay him what he will want to get. He is probably going to want a long term deal with something like $20 million guaranteed. The question is how much longer does the Patriots feel he can play at a high level and also remain motivated? One year past this year? Two? Three? I think the Pats would love to keep him for another year or two after this year, but I don't know about three or four.

    Moss could be drinking the KoolAid, but we thought guys like Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, and Deion Branch drank it too at one point. It is impossible to know what motivates a player when it comes to contract negotiations and money. Typically you don't know until either a contract is signed or the player goes away one way or another.

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